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Boat Forum / Boats / July 2006New Nikon 'Consumer' D-SLR
Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new features. >Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new >features. Something even more 'consumer' than the D50? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John >> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > John With a 10.2mp sensor? Doubtful. >Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new >features. I've been thinking about getting something like a D50 or D70 even though they violate my "no pricey cameras on boats" rule. Any ideas on how they compare, or whether or not this new D70-S model is worth waiting for? >> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > on how they compare, or whether or not this new D70-S model is worth > waiting for? Details are sketchy, because Nikon is "teasing" its customers. The wait, though, is not going to be long; the camera is supposed to be introduced August 20th. The 6.2 mp's and other features of the relatively inexpensive D50 are more than adequate for any advanced amateur photographer. The bigger sensor on the new camera isn't going to do much for you unless you like to make very large enlargements of relatively small areas of a digital photo. >>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > for you unless you like to make very large enlargements of relatively > small areas of a digital photo. Harry, If I am not mistaken, it was either you or that son of bitch JohnH who started this whole camera discussion in rec.boats. Do you two have any idea how much you have cost me and how much exercise I have to do walking the trails looking for that elusive nature photograph? I snapped a photo of a rare wood nymph and posted it in abpso if you are interested.  SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I snapped a photo of a rare wood nymph and posted it in abpso if you are > interested. The exercise will do you good. With all that camera equipment, though, you'd think you'd be able to take a photo of your boat and post it. Anyone? Anyone? >>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >I snapped a photo of a rare wood nymph and posted it in abpso if you are >interested. Your rare wood nymph was quite lovely. I like the way that camera picked up the hair on her legs. Very sharp. If anyone is wondering what a D50 will do, those are some good examples. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John >> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > on how they compare, or whether or not this new D70-S model is worth > waiting for? Wayne, All I have to say is DON'T DO IT. JUST SAY NO! I purchased a Canon Sure Shot for my son and daughter away at school, then I moved up to a D50 for my wife's birthday. Of course, we started off slowly with the two standard lens combo pack, a 18-55mm zoom and a 55-200mm zoom, consumer grade lens. Then we needed to have the 18-200mm zoom, so we would have a one lens that would work 90% of the time. Since this is on backorder till hell freezes over, I ordered the 70-200mm F2.8 professional lens for those time when I really needed a "fast" lens and the 50mm F1.8 for low light when I really didn't want to use a flash, and don't get me started on the SB800 Speedlight, Tripod and Monopod. Now, I am trying to justify a Nikon D200 for myself, so my wife won't have to share her D50. Whatever you do, don't get started, I am sure you are saying, I know I can control myself, but that is what they all said. Trust me on this, don't get started. The D50 and the D70's are nothing more than "Gateway Cameras". SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > don't get started. The D50 and the D70's are nothing more than "Gateway > Cameras". Do you have a QR for those 'pods? I recommend the Manfrotto 3229 tilt head with QR. If you really have all those lenses, you've got too much money to blow, since they have excessive overlap. Why would you need a 55-200 zoom *and* a 70-200 zoom, to pick up an F stop or two? Handholding a 200 mm lens in low light? If you really want to expand your horizons, consider the Tokina 12-24mm. It'll give you a real 18 mm wide angle. >>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > since they have excessive overlap. Why would you need a 55-200 zoom > *and* a 70-200 zoom, to pick up an F stop or two? Harry, I really have purchased all those lens, I just don't currently own all those lens. The difference between those lens is in the quality and it is a drastic difference. I sold the original two combo lens to my brother in law at the price I paid for them, which was lower than the best price he could find. 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor to my brother in law. I ordered the 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF-S VR DX Zoom-Nikkor still waiting for it. http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=5&productNr=2159 70-200mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor a really nice professional quality lens when I wanted some really sharp fast lens and didn't mind carrying a 3 lb lens. Handholding a 200 mm > lens in low light? > > If you really want to expand your horizons, consider the Tokina 12-24mm. > It'll give you a real 18 mm wide angle. I absolutely need a wide angle lens, and I will look at the the Tokina, but I wanted to wait and see the quality of the 18-200 and see if would do all I wanted with a wide angle lens. SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > but I wanted to wait and see the quality of the 18-200 and see if > would do all I wanted with a wide angle lens. The 18-200 will be a 27-300 on your camera, and it won't be the equal of the Tokina in wide angle use. Plus, those wide range zooms weigh a ton, compared to the true wide angles. The lens I'd like to see for the 1.5 digitals is an F2.5 70 mm prime, with really nice portrait bokeh. But no one makes one. >>>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > The lens I'd like to see for the 1.5 digitals is an F2.5 70 mm prime, > with really nice portrait bokeh. But no one makes one. Harry, Since I am so new to all of this, I have to ask the stupid questions and I know I am going to hate to know the answer, because it is going to cost me money, but when will I need the 12mm (really 18mm in digital) that the 18mm (really 27mm in digital)won't suffice. I just got the 50mm f1.8 prime and it is amazing at the pictures you can take in low light. It is perfect for parties and traveling when you don't want to lug the MONSTER lens or they don't allow flash photo. SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>>>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > take in low light. It is perfect for parties and traveling when you > don't want to lug the MONSTER lens or they don't allow flash photo. This might explain it for you: http://tinyurl.com/qda2z No, you really don't need the Tokina. But it is a sweet WA lens. http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-00.html >>>>>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a >>>>>>>> 10.2mp sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > http://www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-00.html Ken Rockwell agrees with your assessment of Tokina: Tokina This is the easy choice among third party lenses. It's the only one that feels solid and professional. It has the fastest focus, the fastest aperture and has the best handling of all third party lenses. The Tokina is the heaviest lens of the four. It has no weak points. Get the Tokina if cost is an issue. If I didn't already have the Nikon and didn't have $1,000 then I'd buy this Tokina. The only way you'll see any of the subtle optical superiority of the Nikon is if you're one of those people who worry more about snapping test charts than making great images. I prefer the Tokina because it's the only $500 lens that feels durable and professional. It's also faster in f/stop and focusing than any of the other third party lenses. The Tokina is the heaviest and feels great. You get your money's worth. It feels like a well made solid lens and it is. It works well and handles well, too SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >don't get started. The D50 and the D70's are nothing more than "Gateway >Cameras". You will absolutely love the D200, and be kicking yourself in the butt for not getting it in the first place! I wish I'd known you were going to get the 70-200mm VR lens. I like mine, but it's not something I'd want to carry on a cruise ship, or even on the PocoLoco. It *is* a great lens, but I'm thinking that the 18-200mm might be more practical. You *need* the SB800. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John >>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > John JohnH, If I end up getting a D200, I will be glad MY WIFE has the D50, I will enjoy MY D200 and I won't have to share. grin. The SB800 and the 50MM F1.8 came in the mail today from B&H, so I have a new learning curve with the SB800. On a serious note, the camera really has been a reason for both my wife and I to get out and enjoy walking along the river, in the mountains or the local park. When I am looking to frame a photo, I see things I missed on my walks before. It really is a healthy hobby. But that 70-200 is one hell of monster lens, the reason I did buy it is if I get a teleconverter for bird watching you need the F2.8 because you lose two fstops with the teleconverter. SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > if I get a teleconverter for bird watching you need the F2.8 because you > lose two fstops with the teleconverter. I'd go with a fast prime tele lens for bird photographs. Odds are, you're going to use that zoom at its longest FL for that purpose. The prime would do a better job and be more manageable. >>>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >you're going to use that zoom at its longest FL for that purpose. The >prime would do a better job and be more manageable. The big lens has two advantages, vibration resistance (VR) which really works, and the f2.8 lens. It comes with its own mount, so a tripod or monopod make setup and 'management' quite easy. The nice thing about the D200 is that there is enough detail to make blow ups quite easy. Check out some of the bird pictures I've posted 'over there', you'll see what I mean. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John >>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >if I get a teleconverter for bird watching you need the F2.8 because you >lose two fstops with the teleconverter. The SB800 couples so well with either the D70 or D200 (and D50, I'm sure) that the learning curve isn't too steep, unless you're going to do something exotic. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John You wrote: > You *need* the SB800. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. $300 for a light source on one axis and 2" off the other? I think I'll pass and use that cause of global warming instead. >>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > be > more practical. I just bought an 18-200 VR on Friday. Thought I'd never get my hands on one. Took some shots this weekend, and so far, I'm pretty impressed with the sharpness. Haven't had a real good opportunity to take advantage of the VR yet. I'll post a couple of shots taken with the new glass "over there". Russ >>>>> Nikon will soon announce a new consumer digital SLR with a 10.2mp >>>>> sensor, probably an addition to the D70-S line with a couple of new [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >Russ Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next October, and I think I may want one of those badly. I may have to put some old lenses under my wife's tires and tell her I need all new ones when she runs over them! -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John > Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next October, > and I think I may want one of those badly. I may have to put some old > lenses under my wife's tires and tell her I need all new ones when she > runs > over them! > -- There's a few shots over there now, but nothing that takes advantage of the VR technology. Probably the most amazing thing this lens brings to the table is its incredible versatility in such a compact and lightweight package. Barely more cumbersome that the 18-70 DX kit lens. I have no idea how Nikon fit that much functionality into such small package. I suspect this lens will be mounted to my camera body just about all of the time. >> Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next October, >> and I think I may want one of those badly. I may have to put some old [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > how Nikon fit that much functionality into such small package. I suspect > this lens will be mounted to my camera body just about all of the time. Russ, Where did you find the lens? How long did you have it on order and what was the price? SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>> Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next October, >>> and I think I may want one of those badly. I may have to put some old [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Where did you find the lens? How long did you have it on order and what > was the price? One of the local pro shops apparently has at least one unit in stock, or at least that's the indication I got from looking at the site. >>>> Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next >>>> October, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > One of the local pro shops apparently has at least one unit in stock, or > at least that's the indication I got from looking at the site. Harry, How much does it cost to get the link to the local pro shop? ;) I have checked every shop in town, none have them in stock, and won't even guess when they will get them, they don't even have a floor sample to look at. They are selling them on Ebay for $1000 plus, I have mine on order for $749, so I just hate to throw away the money when I know it is coming soon or at least, that is what they are telling me. SignatureReggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! >>>>> Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next >>>>> October, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > on order for $749, so I just hate to throw away the money when I know it > is coming soon or at least, that is what they are telling me. As soon as the store responds to me, I'll let you know. If you had a legit email with a real name and so forth...well, that would be different. >>>>>> Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next >>>>>> October, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >As soon as the store responds to me, I'll let you know. If you had a >legit email with a real name and so forth...well, that would be different. How about telling me, Harry? If you got the info from the store's site, why not post the link. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John > Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next October, > and I think I may want one of those badly. I may have to put some old [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > John Your wife has tires? That's pretty unusual, but probably cheaper than keeping the average woman in shoes. :-) >> Thanks Russ. Let us know when you do. We're taking a cruise next October, >> and I think I may want one of those badly. I may have to put some old [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >:-) Insert 'truck' before 'tires' !! -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John > I just bought an 18-200 VR on Friday. Thought I'd never get my hands on > one. Took some shots this weekend, and so far, I'm pretty impressed with > the sharpness. Haven't had a real good opportunity to take advantage of the > VR yet. I'll post a couple of shots taken with the new glass "over there". > > Russ They would be well advised to offer a 14-70. Even a 14-55. The 18-70 isn't wide enough for a lot of interior shots aboard a boat (same as about a 27mm lens on a 35 mm camera) and the 10.5mm images can be converted to rectilinear with Nikon's Capture software but the results can be surprising. You have to be thinking about the "isms" in the correction program the entire time you're using the 10.5 >> I just bought an 18-200 VR on Friday. Thought I'd never get my hands on >> one. Took some shots this weekend, and so far, I'm pretty impressed with [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > can be surprising. You have to be thinking about the "isms" in the > correction program the entire time you're using the 10.5 Nikon and others offer a 12-24 mm that would give you an 18-36, approximately. In other words, a really usable wide angle zoom. |
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