I ran out of ports on my old four-port wired Netgear router, so, instead
of buying a switch and adding it on, I bought a wired Linksys eight-port
router. Ran a speed test immediately afterwards and noticed to my
delight a 20% uptick in download speed. My old Netgear router was about
five years old, I guess, and the Linksys router I bought was
introduced two years ago, I was told.
Interestingly, the number of wired routers available is down
substantially since the advent of WiFi. I suppose almost everyone is
going wireless in the home, but I still think wired is mo' betta. When
we built this house, I connected several rooms with Cat5e cable. I do
use wireless at the kitchen table sometimes, and it works just fine, but
it is not nearly as fast as wired.
The new router is a BEFSR81. Well under $100, if you're shopping for one.
JimH - 26 Jan 2007 13:23 GMT
>I ran out of ports on my old four-port wired Netgear router, so, instead of
>buying a switch and adding it on, I bought a wired Linksys eight-port
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> The new router is a BEFSR81. Well under $100, if you're shopping for one.
I have the same setup, only I had to run the cat cable after the house was
built. I wired both kids bedrooms, my office, my wife's office and the
basement game room.
Clams Canino - 26 Jan 2007 14:24 GMT
> I ran out of ports on my old four-port wired Netgear router, so, instead
> of buying a switch and adding it on, I bought a wired Linksys eight-port
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> The new router is a BEFSR81. Well under $100, if you're shopping for one.
I use a Linksys combo router. 4 ports wired and WIFI. Works great for the
detached outbuildings.
-W
James - 26 Jan 2007 14:24 GMT
I'm having a hard timne figuring out how a new router improved your download
speed by 20% since your connection to the internet is only a fraction of the
speed of any local router connections. Most hispeed internet connections,
dsl, cable, etc. average somewhere around 1 to 2 meg. Local hardwired
ethernet is either 10meg or 100 meg. Most local are 100meg. I'm thinking
you did not do a valid comparison. It's hard to do a valid comparison as
your hispeed internet connection speed also varies depending on who else is
active in your immediate area as you share the routers belonging to your
provider with your neighbors. As well as the type and length of the
connection and the percentage of errors.
>I ran out of ports on my old four-port wired Netgear router, so, instead of
>buying a switch and adding it on, I bought a wired Linksys eight-port
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> The new router is a BEFSR81. Well under $100, if you're shopping for one.
Harry Krause - 26 Jan 2007 15:05 GMT
> I'm having a hard timne figuring out how a new router improved your download
> speed by 20% since your connection to the internet is only a fraction of the
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>> The new router is a BEFSR81. Well under $100, if you're shopping for one.
I have no idea, but it did. I test speed several times a week on three
sites and I tested immediately after installing the new router. I never
had speeds as high as the test now reports. As Yoda told me: Gift horses
in the mouth look not.
Clams Canino - 26 Jan 2007 19:13 GMT
"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message
> I have no idea, but it did. I test speed several times a week on three
> sites and I tested immediately after installing the new router. I never
> had speeds as high as the test now reports. As Yoda told me: Gift horses
> in the mouth look not.
Baffles me too. Perhaps the old router or its software was just hosed in a
manner that this new one is not. <shrug>. Just take it.
-W
Short Wave Sportfishing - 26 Jan 2007 19:37 GMT
>"Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>Baffles me too. Perhaps the old router or its software was just hosed in a
>manner that this new one is not. <shrug>. Just take it.
Believe it or not, I've noticed the same here with hardwired vs wifi -
the through put is much faster even when there are three or four
computers on at the same time.
One of the foster kids we currently have with us is really into
playing WoW and that really eats up bandwidth - with the old wifi set
up, you would notice it when she was playing - now, it's barely
noticeable.
Maybe the new routers are handling the through put differently?
Harry Krause - 26 Jan 2007 19:59 GMT
>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe the new routers are handling the through put differently?
Just for grins, I plugged in my old router, ran the speed test, got the
same old results, and then replugged in the new router, and got the
faster speeds.
Sorry to read about the loss of your dog. Losing a family pet really sucks.
Short Wave Sportfishing - 26 Jan 2007 20:04 GMT
>>> "Harry Krause" <harry.krause@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
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>Sorry to read about the loss of your dog. Losing a family pet really sucks.
yeah - thanks.
John - 26 Jan 2007 21:17 GMT
>> I'm having a hard timne figuring out how a new router improved your
>> download speed by 20% since your connection to the internet is only a
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> had speeds as high as the test now reports. As Yoda told me: Gift horses
> in the mouth look not.
In a router, the packet comes in and the ip header is stripped off, the mac
address is changed to the mac of the router. The ip header is then
reassembled and the packet is sent on its way. This happens for all packets
both directions. With the new electronics and ASICS it is possible to read
the packet in to a buffer and just stuff the new mac address into the
packet - a LOT faster. I don't know if that is the answer for this router
in particuar, but it general its very close.
Harry Krause - 26 Jan 2007 23:43 GMT
>>> I'm having a hard timne figuring out how a new router improved your
>>> download speed by 20% since your connection to the internet is only a
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> packet - a LOT faster. I don't know if that is the answer for this router
> in particuar, but it general its very close.
Hey, thanks.
Bill Kearney - 28 Jan 2007 22:17 GMT
> I'm having a hard timne figuring out how a new router improved your download
> speed by 20% since your connection to the internet is only a fraction of the
> speed of any local router connections.
Believe it. Newer routers, especially ones targeted toward the 'gamer'
market, are generally faster at handling the overhead of routing your
packets. Even more so when there are several computers hanging off the
switch ports too.
I found my old router worked best when I hung it off another switch instead
of plugging the PCs right into it. The PC-to-PC traffic for file sharing
and such was enough of a burden to also slow that older router's internet
handling.
Here's a comparison chart to consider:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=156
So while you're certainly going to be limited to the total uplink/downlink
speed to your ISP, that router sitting in between may be slowing things down
a lot more than you'd imagine.
-Bill Kearney
Harry Krause - 28 Jan 2007 22:32 GMT
>> I'm having a hard timne figuring out how a new router improved your
> download
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> -Bill Kearney
Thanks. I've seen a chart similar to that one. But the routers on the
site you offered up are wireless. Your point is made there, though.
Bill Kearney - 29 Jan 2007 14:27 GMT
> > Here's a comparison chart to consider:
> > http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=156
> >
> Thanks. I've seen a chart similar to that one. But the routers on the
> site you offered up are wireless. Your point is made there, though.
Yeah, I've yet to come across one that focused on wireless only. I'd like
to see the same sorts of test results. But given how cheap the wifi routers
can be it might be worth using one and just disabling the wireless features.
thunder - 29 Jan 2007 17:50 GMT
> Yeah, I've yet to come across one that focused on wireless only. I'd like
> to see the same sorts of test results. But given how cheap the wifi routers
> can be it might be worth using one and just disabling the wireless features.
Along similar lines, there is a large Linux community of hackers having
fun with those very same routers.
http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9515501295.html
John - 26 Jan 2007 21:10 GMT
>I ran out of ports on my old four-port wired Netgear router, so, instead of
>buying a switch and adding it on, I bought a wired Linksys eight-port
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>
> The new router is a BEFSR81. Well under $100, if you're shopping for one.
You are right wireless is slower than cat5. The trade off being the wiring.
I have an older house and used cat 5 for my office, where the router and my
pc's are. But my wife wanted to be able to use her laptop in the living
room, screened porch, basement... wireless is the way to go for portability.
If you build a new house, absolutely you should wire it with cat 5 minimum.
If adding a network to your existing house and need multiple drops, wireless
is the way to go.