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Boat Forum / Boats / April 2007On inboards and outboards..
Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier than manuevering a twin inboard diesel boat. Couldn't quite get the whole gearing issue down right. I tried several techniques I've read about - for instance, putting the starboard engine in reverse and using the port engine to move the boat and vice versa. Seemed a lot simpler to me to use just one engine and use the rudder to manuever, but that doesn't always work in a cross wind (which I learned rather quickly). Guess it's just a question of learning the skill. However, I much prefer just pointing the engine where I want to go and when. :>) > Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that > in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier > than manuevering a twin inboard diesel boat. Regardless of the fact that an inboard is powered by diesel or gas..........the pivot point is closer to the center of the boat with inboards vs. outboards which would result in a tighter turning radius with inboards with the twin inboards literally capable of turning on a dime. Why was your experience today to the contrary? >> Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that >> in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Why was your experience today to the contrary? I think Short Wave is too accustom to vectored thrust. Eisboch > Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that > in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > However, I much prefer just pointing the engine where I want to go and > when. :>) Real inboarders have single screw boats. > Real inboarders have single screw boats. And, after a few mishaps, a stern thruster. Eisboch >> Real inboarders have single screw boats. > > And, after a few mishaps, a stern thruster. > > Eisboch Naw. I can't recall one inboard berthed at my father's marina that was other than a single screw, and this included boats from about 18' to well over 40'. All those boat owners seemed to be able to handle their pleasure craft properly. What it takes is...practice. I won't deny the value of thrusters, though, bow or stern. They make life a lot easier. >>> Real inboarders have single screw boats. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I won't deny the value of thrusters, though, bow or stern. They make life > a lot easier.+ I would trade a single screw with a single IO anyday. A single IO has to be the worst in regards to close quarter maneuverability. >>> Real inboarders have single screw boats. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I won't deny the value of thrusters, though, bow or stern. They make life > a lot easier. I was a little apprehensive the first time I moved Mrs. E's. GB because I am so familiar with twin screws and how they handle and the GB is a single. Even though the GB has a stern thruster, I practiced backing it into the slip several times without using it unless I really blew it. It took a while to feel comfortable even though the GB tracks very predictably .... probably because of the keel. Also, the thruster on the GB is a wimp compared to those on the Navigator. When you hit one of the Navigator thrusters, the whole boat heels over a bit. The GB thruster spins, but not a whole lot happens very fast. I consider myself fairly experienced in handling twin inboards. Now I have to work on the single. I am also experienced enough to stay tied to the dock when the wind's blowing over 20-25. Eisboch >> Real inboarders have single screw boats. I think the most difficult boat to back into a slip are the older, single screw Penn Yan inboards with the "tunnel drive" hull design. I am not sure, but I think because the prop was half enclosed by the tunnel shape of the hull, it made the boat extremely difficult to predictably back down, relying on prop walk to move the stern over. Add a little wind or current and it became almost impossible. Eisboch |
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