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Boat Forum / Boats / July 2008capaticy plate
I have to tell you when it comes to luck I have the worse!! I finally decided on a boat and purchased it. 1990 Maxum 18ft 1800SR Open bow 135hp Merc I/o I was sittin at the local Notary Tag center getting it all registered and legal. When the guy asked me for the capacity plate information.... There is no tag/sticker indication of any capacity information nowhere!! What is the information of this plate that I need? I can apply to the boat commission to issue me a new tag but that does not help getting her registered now. What should it read please? Thanks!!!!! Tim > I have to tell you when it comes to luck I have the worse!! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tim Go here: http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/backyardboatbuild ers.pdf and look to page 36 of the pdf file...HTH Scotty from SmallBoats.com RowdyMouseRacing.com Trip-Reports.com where did you go today? > I have to tell you when it comes to luck I have the worse!! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tim Maxum has factories in Salisbury, MD, and Pipestone, MN. You might try calling the factory and asking for customer service. Or try a local Maxum dealer. >I have to tell you when it comes to luck I have the worse!! > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >There is no tag/sticker indication of any capacity information nowhere!! Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to - it's got to be there. On an inboard/IO there isn't a horsepower rating - only weight and passenger information. It will be yellow and black plastic plaque. Off hand, at eighteen feet, I'd guess 1,200 pds gear and people with a six person capacity, but don't take that for granted - it may be WAY different. I'm sure you will find the capacity plate. > Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to > - it's got to be there. As I understand the law, the manufacturer has to put a capacity label there, but there's no law against an owner removing it. Kind of like those tags on mattresses. That's only at the fed level; there may be other state laws that apply. A Maxum dealer should be able to get the OP a new one if his is missing. >> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >apply. A Maxum dealer should be able to get the OP a new one if his is >missing. No. The CFR says all boats have to have the capacity plate. If you have seperate insurance for your boat, the company may hold you liable for any claims if one isn't present and you overload the boat. There is a way to rebadge the boat by changing propulsion or decreasing the number of people allowed on board, but it has to be there. CFR 183.23 and 183.25 http://tinyurl.com/5szakh >>> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >>> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://tinyurl.com/5szakh All boats do not have to have a capacity plate stating the number of passengers and weight. I think it is only up to 20' of boat. After that it requires a statement placard / plate that says that the boat manufacture conforms to all Coast Guard applicable laws. >>>> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >>>> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >it requires a statement placard / plate that says that the boat manufacture >conforms to all Coast Guard applicable laws. Yes Bill - and what are the applicable laws? What - you been taking Harry lessons? :>) >>What - you been taking Harry lessons? :>)<< C'mon Tom, that was uneccessary, and a low blow to boot. <g> --Mike >>>>> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >>>>> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > What - you been taking Harry lessons? :>) >C'mon Tom, that was uneccessary, and a low blow to boot. <g> Finest kind as we used to say around Havard Yard. :>) >>>>> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >>>>> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > What - you been taking Harry lessons? :>) Nope. I am smarter. :>) When I bought my boat, I asked about a capacity plate and was told by the manufacturer, that my size boat only required the complies with regs tag. They have to know the regs. I just have to put money in the boat. > >>> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to > >>> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > it requires a statement placard / plate that says that the boat manufacture > conforms to all Coast Guard applicable laws. Agreed. My smaller boats had/has one.........the larger boats did not. >>>>> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >>>>> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Agreed. My smaller boats had/has one.........the larger boats did not. My 25' Parker had one. I don't remember the number, might have been 12 or 14, but whatever it was, the passenger capacity was colossal, in my mind, for a boat that size. Most I ever had aboard for fishing was...four passenger/guests. >> there's no law against an owner removing it. > The CFR says all boats have to have the capacity plate. I stand corrected. [sewingtagsbackonmatresses.avi] What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? I saw a local gas station advertising "Boat Gas" but don't know what they re selling. BTW: I don't have the boat/motor here yet, its coming up from Florida next month so I can't RTFM BTW2: Reg Unl here is sold in liters (think Quarts) @ $ 140.9 That's working out to $ 5.32 gallon and a NEW tax kicks in that should push it up to $ 5.40..SWMBO says its up to 145.9 today, thats $ 5.51 US gallon OUCH ! When I had my Bayliner 2350 back in the 80's, "Marine gas" was Regular LEADED gas and was about 15 cents/Gal cheaper (72 cents) than "road" gas because there were no "Highway" taxes on it.Do they still sell "marked gas" (No/Low tax) for farm/off road purposes ? Is it UNLEADED ? Will that work in a two stroke (if I could find any)? >What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It >adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >purposes ? Is it UNLEADED ? >Will that work in a two stroke (if I could find any)? Where the heck are you? >>What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It >>adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Where the heck are you? Uranus? Some place off planet for leaded gas, or at least a 3rd world country. >>>When I had my Bayliner 2350 back in the 80's, "Marine gas" was Regular >>>LEADED gas and was about 15 cents/Gal cheaper (72 cents) than "road" gas >>>because there were no "Highway" taxes on it. >> Where the heck are you? > Uranus? Some place off planet for leaded gas, or at least a 3rd world > country. R_E_A_D the MESSAGE S-L-O-W-L-Y, the LEADED reference was dated "In the 80's" ..anyway, I see that there isn't any real INFORMATION coming out of KELI-Fornia, just "wise a.s comments" > >>>When I had my Bayliner 2350 back in the 80's, "Marine gas" was Regular > >>>LEADED gas and was about 15 cents/Gal cheaper (72 cents) than "road" gas [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ..anyway, I see that there isn't any real INFORMATION coming out of > KELI-Fornia, just "wise a.s comments" This NG is not about boats but is totally about RV's, motorcycles, child endangerment, cell phones, fireworks and most especially about whining about a real boating board. Let me know if you need a link to that boating board. ;-) >>>>> When I had my Bayliner 2350 back in the 80's, "Marine gas" was Regular >>>>> LEADED gas and was about 15 cents/Gal cheaper (72 cents) than "road" gas [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Let me know if you need a link to that boating board. ;-) Why don't you go to the real boating board? Because you NEVER go boating. >>>>>> When I had my Bayliner 2350 back in the 80's, "Marine gas" was >>>>>> Regular [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Why don't you go to the real boating board? Because you NEVER go boating. Ignore that POS. Like a five year old, he is only here for attention and will go away if no one will play with the child. >> Why don't you go to the real boating board? Ok, I'll bite..Where is it ? >>> Why don't you go to the real boating board? > > Ok, I'll bite..Where is it ? http://boatingforum.proboards91.com/index.cgi But the sort of name-calling engaged in here by the likes of Loogy, Reggie, DK, and the rest of their clique is not allowed there. It also helps to have a boat or at least be interested in boating. :>) >>>What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It >>>adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Uranus? Brown 25? (Obscure cultural reference) >Some place off planet for leaded gas, or at least a 3rd world >country. Obviously. Speaking of ethanol, did you see that news report on the subsidies the agricultural sector is getting for ethanol production? It's unreal. We're being held hostage to the farmers. >>>>What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? >>>>It [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > We're being held hostage to the farmers. Did not see the report, but is one of the reason ADM has always beenone of the biggest political money suppliers. Okanagan Valley, British Columbia, Canada "Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote > > Where the heck are you? >>What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It >>adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? >>I saw a local gas station advertising "Boat Gas" but don't know what they >>re >>selling. >"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email@swsportsremove.org> wrote > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Okanagan Valley, British Columbia, Canada Ah - makes sense now. To answer your first question, yes - regular unleaded will work fine on a two stroke. I believe, not absoutely sure about this as I'm not a Mercury guy, that it's an EFI engine which is right before they switched the lower horsepowers over to four stroke. I can't answer your question about "boat gas" other than to guess that the marine trades in your area may have reduced the taxes for marine use. It should be exactly the same as auto gas. >What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It >adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >purposes ? Is it UNLEADED ? >Will that work in a two stroke (if I could find any)? Anything made in the US since 1971 or so will run on unleaded, You Tracker should do fine on regular unleaded. The real limitation prior to 71 was the valves and 2 strokes don't have them. The old style valve seats depended on a pinch of lead to protect them. In the late 60s Delco developed "stellite" valves and that eliminated that problem for 4 stroke engines. Every manufacturer uses a similar material now. BTW you can still get leaded gas at the airport but it is pricy >>What is the prescribed fuel for a 2005 Merc Tracker 60 HP Two stroke ? It >>adds its own oil to the mix but will Regular unleaded (87 octane) work ? > Anything made in the US since 1971 or so will run on unleaded, You > Tracker should do fine on regular unleaded. Thanks, GF, sounds like a plan to me. The '08 O/B s they've put on the SunTrackers are all 4 Strokes U/L now >>BTW2: Reg Unl here is sold in liters (think Quarts) @ $ 140.9 That's >>working out to $ 5.32 gallon and a NEW tax kicks in that should push >>it up to $ 5.40..SWMBO says its up to 145.9 today, thats $ 5.51 US gallon >>OUCH ! I went to the local marina today, they re flogging 89 Octane U/L at $ 1.76 liter which is $ 6.69 US Gal !! 92 Octane is 1.79 or $ 6.77 Gal. Its being trailered so I think I'll get it filled at the local gas station where its "Only" $ 5.51 I guess I should call around locally (Farm Co-Op)and see about "Marked Gas".. >> Has to be permanetly fixed at or near the operator's position. Has to >> - it's got to be there. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > laws that apply. A Maxum dealer should be able to get the OP a new one if > his is missing. The only reason to ever remove it would be if it was stolen. Serial numbers.... I would NEVER buy a boat minus those tags. In our area, it is also required. I contacted a Maxum Dealer they told me 8 people 2130 weight 200 hp. She also is sending me a form for a request for a new capacity plate. I used the information she gave me to finalize the paperwork. I will request a new plate. If it is in fact different ....that will be the next saga. This group is great I look forward to boating and spending sometime learning and reading here!..Thank you all I appreciate it greatly! Tim >I have to tell you when it comes to luck I have the worse!! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Tim > I contacted a Maxum Dealer they told me 8 people 2130 weight 200 hp. She > also is sending me a form for a request for a new capacity plate. > > I used the information she gave me to finalize the paperwork. I will > request a new plate. If it is in fact different ....that will be the next > saga. Please understand that 8 is the maximum capacity and certainly not recommended on an 18 foot bowrider. >> I contacted a Maxum Dealer they told me 8 people 2130 weight 200 hp. She >> also is sending me a form for a request for a new capacity plate. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Please understand that 8 is the maximum capacity and certainly not > recommended on an 18 foot bowrider. That's one thing I notice a lot out on the Bay...small boats, 14-footers, with four or five passengers, and not much freeboard left. I pretty much can guess what would happen if they got hit by the wake from one of those Xanadu barges that roar by, bows up in the air and wakes the size of a small roller coaster. |
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