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Boat Forum / Boats / July 2008Someone put a dime in the meter over there
It's melting away. Check it out. > It's melting away. Check it out. Too bad really... But I bet the blame game will be allowed to go unchallenged. And when we do, we will get warnings. Eventually when WAFA gets too beat up, the post(s) will disappear again. It's just a shame, a fair minded, confident moderator could have made quick work of this months ago with a few scattered timeouts.... But when the worst offender is untouchable, it just can't work.. and never will.... Oh, and be ready for Jim H to suggest that we "wanted this", when the truth, for anyone concerned is, were felt we were defending ourselves. Weather you agree or not, if you dismiss our agenda, you are just taking sides, can you say, intellectual dishonesty? Nothing personal, and I admit I don't like this Gould sockpuppet, but I knew he couldn't do it. Moderation, is for moderates. >> It's melting away. Check it out. >Nothing personal, and I admit I don't like this Gould sockpuppet, but >I knew he couldn't do it. Moderation, is for moderates. I knew it was going to happen and I even told Chuck so. It's not that Chuck isn't capable of moderating, but his dream was to have a lightly moderated forum in which everybody got along with the occasional spat that would dissolve quickly. It's a very "New Age" approach to forum moderating and doesn't work worth a damn because of three members in particular just couldn't drop what went on here and dragged it over there. Secondarily, it was too easy to just drop down to the last fifty posts which compacted the latest activity and became the defacto forum without reference to the various thread categories. I could have told Chuck that would happen too - been there, done that. Thirdly (thirdly?), he shouldn't have even gone with an off topic thread category - told him that too. Chuck wanted it to go his way and it didn't. He's also stubborn because this was evident two months ago shortly after he got it up and running, but he kept hoping. Instead of banning people or barring them for a day, three days, week, month, he deleted the posts and that never works. He had the resources if he only asked for some advice before he set it up and gotten some advice from former moderators who have been through the wars. Chuck needs to be the last court of appeal for the actions of a moderator or maybe two moderators who become the bad guys. That way he can isolate himself from his group and act as a "El Supremo Grande" when complaints come flying. He doesn't even have to be personally involved - he can read through the posts and give instructions to the moderators if there is something that he doens't like. On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:54:31 -0700 (PDT), > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > involved - he can read through the posts and give instructions to the > moderators if there is something that he doens't like. I tried to tell him months ago that one forum, and hefty groundings for anyone who was a jerk would work. Also suggested opening up for negative as well as positive karma. This allows folks to know right off the bat if a responder is respected in the group. In other groups I frequent, if you are a positive poster, with knowledge, you had a lot of green leaves, if you were useless, you ended up with a huge red bar...Also offered to help him moderate.. Like you said, he needs a couple of helpers to do the sifting, and he needs to be the Court of Appeals. On Jul 3, 8:34 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > couple of helpers to do the sifting, and he needs to be the Court of > Appeals. How interesting. The "Who Me?" game begins. > On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > couple of helpers to do the sifting, and he needs to be the Court of > Appeals. Chuck doesn't need any droolers to moderate. >On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >couple of helpers to do the sifting, and he needs to be the Court of >Appeals. In other forums, the most effective technique I've seen is when a thread goes nasty or too hot headed, the moderator just locks that thread for 3 days. By the time it gets unlocked, everyone is on to something else, and it rarely gets any fresh fuel after that. It's nice because it doesn't point any fingers, or make any one person wear a pointy hat that can lead to festering resentment. >>On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] >fresh fuel after that. It's nice because it doesn't point any fingers, or make >any one person wear a pointy hat that can lead to festering resentment. I've seen that done - unfortunately, it bleds over to other threads. Chuck needs to get a moderator for him - the hands off approach isn't going to work and he probably will end up talking to himself. But he's got to do it his way - good luck to him. >>> On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > But he's got to do it his way - good luck to him. All that has to happen is for the turd blossoms from here behave. But I don't think they can control themselves. Hope the chuckster kicks them off and soon. > >>> On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> > >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You are WAFA >>>>> On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > You are WAFA Is that some sort of initialism for someone who disapproves of parents who allow their small children to ride motorcycles? On Jul 3, 9:19 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote: > Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You are WAFA =============================== Earlier today you asked me to ignore him. > On Jul 3, 9:19 pm, HK <payer33...@mypacks.net> wrote: >> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > Earlier today you asked me to ignore him. You would pay attention to the resident child abuser? > <justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You are right, I had a little fun for a while.. I think the excitement is over. On Jul 3, 9:49 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote: > > <justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > You are right, I had a little fun for a while.. I think the excitement > is over. So your sole purpose here, as you admitted, was to troll and cause problems. Too bad. >>>On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >But he's got to do it his way - good luck to him. Heck, I suggested to Chuck that he make JimH and Harry co-moderators over there. Pretty soon there'd only be three posters, but everything would be all sweetness and light amongst the three. Chuck deleted my idea. I felt pretty badly. But, I'll survive. Maybe. >>>> On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > > Chuck deleted my idea. I felt pretty badly. But, I'll survive. Maybe. I co-moderated a boating discussion group. You and your pack of trashmen wouldn't have lasted five posts. >>>On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > >I've seen that done - unfortunately, it bleds over to other threads. It's very effective, and when the quarrel occasionally (very occasionally) gets carried over to another thread, it has lost most of it's steam. If not, the moderator can temporarily pause that thread as well. I've never seen that become necessary. A three day cool out on a thread WORKS. One big advantage of this technique is it allows EVERYONE to carry on, including the ones who caused the thread to overheat, without leaving any residuual noses out of joint. The nastiness is quelled and the victims are satisfied that "something" was done to stop it. If you have one person that continually goes nuts, you privately warn them once, and if they continue after the warning, you privately dis-member them. None of it is ever done publically, which only serves to keep the controversy alive, and breed lasting rancor. By doing it all without public humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, or slink away. >>>> On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, > or slink away. Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without hesitation. >Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for >one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without >hesitation. Be careful what you ask for. >> Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for >> one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without >> hesitation. > > Be careful what you ask for. Why? Why would I care if any or all of the Seven Dwarfs feel the steel? BTW, my wife loves that swimming pig photo. I made her a print of it. I think she has it displayed on her desk. Thanks. > >> Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for > >> one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > BTW, my wife loves that swimming pig photo. I made her a print of it. I > think she has it displayed on her desk. Thanks. Remind her of her WAFA? >BTW, my wife loves that swimming pig photo. I made her a print of it. I >think she has it displayed on her desk. Thanks. You're quite welcome, too bad it's not out there anymore. Our last night at Staniel Cay we happened to notice that the family in the picture was eating dinner at the table next to us. We exchanged EMAIL addresses and they were thrilled to get the pictures. >>> Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for >>> one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without >>> hesitation. >> >> Be careful what you ask for. Uhh ohh, too late it seems. >Why? Why would I care if any or all of the Seven Dwarfs feel the steel? Plus one makes eight ? > >>> Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for > >>> one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Plus one makes eight ? Team Dwarf is down one brave brother... Team WAFA is completely out of the game.;) >>>> Well, Chuckster wiped the slate...and we'll see what happens next. I for >>>> one am hoping his scimitar is sharp...and that he uses it without [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Plus one makes eight ? Why? Are you joining them? >By doing it all without public >humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, >or slink away. But the entertainment value is totally lost. :-) >>By doing it all without public >>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, >>or slink away. > >But the entertainment value is totally lost. :-) That's half the fun of Usenet - the entertainment value. >>> By doing it all without public >>> humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, >>> or slink away. >> But the entertainment value is totally lost. :-) > > That's half the fun of Usenet - the entertainment value. Chuck's message board isn't usenet. This place is. >>>By doing it all without public >>>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >That's half the fun of Usenet - the entertainment value. We are not talking about usenet. We're talking about private forums run by individuals or organizations. >>>>By doing it all without public >>>>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >We are not talking about usenet. We're talking about private forums run by >individuals or organizations. I'm begining to suspect that you are a Harry clone. :>) >>>>> By doing it all without public >>>>> humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I'm begining to suspect that you are a Harry clone. :>) I've been libeled, slandered, and insulted! My lawyer will call yours. :>) >>>>>By doing it all without public >>>>>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I'm begining to suspect that you are a Harry clone. :>) Then I suspect you are not very perceptive. On Jul 4, 3:59 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:52:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Then I suspect you are not very perceptive. Tom does not like it when he is corrected by others. >On Jul 4, 3:59 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:52:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Tom does not like it when he is corrected by others. Then he should do more thinking before speaking to avoid it. :') >>>>>>By doing it all without public >>>>>>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Then I suspect you are not very perceptive. Talk about losing perspective. Wayne made a comment about losing entertainment value once a user has been booted from a private forum. I mentioned that, with respect to entertainment value, Usenet provides plenty of same. To which you replied that we weren't talking about Usenet. I would point out that I WAS talking about Usenet in reference to relative entertainment values of the two forms of discourse - this being more open and free form which private forums prefer not to provide being more focused and topic specific. I'm fairly certain that most people here understood that. Now that I know you have a cognition problem with respect to comparing A to B I'll be sure to explain it to you in future posts. On Jul 4, 5:23 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> wrote: > >>>>>>By doing it all without public > >>>>>>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Now that I know you have a cognition problem with respect to comparing > A to B I'll be sure to explain it to you in future posts. Another whiner. > On Jul 4, 5:23 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - All you DO here is whine, warp17 >>>>>>>By doing it all without public >>>>>>>humiliation, the perp can save face, and either shape up with a lesson learned, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >Now that I know you have a cognition problem with respect to comparing >A to B I'll be sure to explain it to you in future posts. Holy Crap! On Jul 4, 7:42 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: > On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:23:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Holy Crap! I repeat............Tom does not like it when he is corrected by others. >On Jul 4, 7:42 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: >> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:23:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >I repeat............Tom does not like it when he is corrected by >others. Yeah, but you didn't warn me it turned him into a babbling mass of idiocy! >>On Jul 4, 7:42 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: >>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:23:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Yeah, but you didn't warn me it turned him into a babbling mass of idiocy! Yay, Jimmy finally got a follower. You've definitely put a smile on the boy's face with that comment. He's been whining about Tom for a couple weeks because Tom gave him what he deserved. You go, guy! >>>On Jul 4, 7:42 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: >>>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:23:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >You go, guy! Neither of them is that impressive. I'm quite sure you care a lot more what they say than I do. >>>> On Jul 4, 7:42 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:23:23 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Neither of them is that impressive. I'm quite sure you care a lot more what they > say than I do. I position what *you* say about a hair above what Loogy says. >> On Jul 3, 8:17 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing <em...@swsportsremove.org> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > fresh fuel after that. It's nice because it doesn't point any fingers, or make > any one person wear a pointy hat that can lead to festering resentment. In other forums, people like Reggie, BAR, Herring, justasecond, DK, et cetera, are tossed out on their butts after three offensive posts. >>> It's melting away. Check it out. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >involved - he can read through the posts and give instructions to the >moderators if there is something that he doens't like. I gave Chuck an idea for a couple moderators. He didn't like it, I guess, 'cause he deleted the post. > On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:17:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > I gave Chuck an idea for a couple moderators. He didn't like it, I guess, > 'cause he deleted the post. Maybe because you and Reggie were the 2 you recommended. >> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:17:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Maybe because you and Reggie were the 2 you recommended. I would have kept the post and deleted Herring, Reggie, Florida Jim, BAR, Loogy, and Waitless, for starters. That would have rendered unnecessary tonight's surgery. > > On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:17:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Maybe because you and Reggie were the 2 you recommended. BTW: You are a whiner. > I gave Chuck an idea for a couple moderators. He didn't like it, I guess, > 'cause he deleted the post. Weren't you the one who encouraged the Dwarf Army to go over there and trash the place because Chuck wouldn't punish a couple of us for activities here? Chuck is to lenient. He should have blackballed the lot of you as soon as you started acting up. "Don White" wrote in message > Weren't you the one who encouraged the Dwarf Army to go over there and > trash the place because Chuck wouldn't punish a couple of us WHERE is "Over there"? > "Don White" wrote in message > > Weren't you the one who encouraged the Dwarf Army to go over there and > > trash the place because Chuck wouldn't punish a couple of us > > WHERE is "Over there"? http://boatingforum.proboards91.com/ It may have been you, but someone suggested that Harry, JimmyH, and Donny be the moderators. I think that's a great idea, then we could just watch them jerk each other off, since that's all that would be happening over there. --Mike >>>> It's melting away. Check it out. >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > I gave Chuck an idea for a couple moderators. He didn't like it, I guess, > 'cause he deleted the post. > It may have been you, but someone suggested that Harry, JimmyH, and Donny be > the moderators. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > --Mike Actually, being the group jerk-off would be a good job for you. You seem to do it a lot. >It may have been you, but someone suggested that Harry, JimmyH, and Donny be >the moderators. [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> I gave Chuck an idea for a couple moderators. He didn't like it, I guess, >> 'cause he deleted the post. I forgot to include Donnie. But that'd be OK. > It may have been you, but someone suggested that Harry, JimmyH, and Donny > be the moderators. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > --Mike So it turns you on to watch men perform sex acts on each other??? Thought there was something very weird about you. >> It's melting away. Check it out. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Nothing personal, and I admit I don't like this Gould sockpuppet, but > I knew he couldn't do it. Moderation, is for moderates. You wanted it; you got it. I suspect the proprietor will look less kindly now on your shenanigans. >It's melting away. Check it out. I tried to make some meaningful, nice, boater friendly responses to some of the messages, but all the threads are gone. Like ... disappeared. Ethereal. Once upon a time three guys went into a bar. They already had somewhat of a bad reputation, but they attempted to close the bar by starting fights and making slurs. They didn't get it closed, so they tried harder. Just one of them would make 50+ slurs in a single day, almost every one supported by the other two (or sometimes three). They would then go into a different bar, owned by a different guy, and find the same people there. In this bar, the three guys and the owner expected to find sweetness, gentleness, honey and roses from the same people who had put up with their slurs in the first place. Strangely, some of the ill will went into the new bar also. Hard to understand. But, there you go. What A Friendly Angel! >> It's melting away. Check it out. > > I tried to make some meaningful, nice, boater friendly responses to some of > the messages, but all the threads are gone. Like ... disappeared. Ethereal. Two of those, and about 200 snarky, nasty, jerky comments is what I remember. Look in your PM box over there. Chuck left a note as to what his intentions are. Krause has to be put on a very short leash if he's allowed to post at Chuck's place at all. I won't cut him a bit of slack. He doesn't deserve it. >>It's melting away. Check it out. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > What A Friendly Angel! > Look in your PM box over there. Chuck left a note as to what his > intentions are. Krause has to be put on a very short leash if he's > allowed to post at Chuck's place at all. I won't cut him a bit of slack. > He doesn't deserve it. It ain't me, babe....it's the turd blossoms...like you. > Look in your PM box over there. Chuck left a note as to what his intentions > are. Krause has to be put on a very short leash if he's allowed to post at [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > > What A Friendly Angel! For someone who has been banned from posting at Chucks place because of your nasty behavior you remain obsessed with his board. Get help before you...............http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/ > > Look in your PM box over there. Chuck left a note as to what his intentions > > are. Krause has to be put on a very short leash if he's allowed to post at [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You will hereby be dubbed HAFA2 ;) On Jul 3, 9:32 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Look in your PM box over there. Chuck left a note as to what his intentions > > > are. Krause has to be put on a very short leash if he's allowed to post at [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > You will hereby be dubbed HAFA2 ;) Whatever. You are nothing more than white trash and a child abuser. > On Jul 3, 9:32 pm, justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - This is the second time you have called me white trash, now you call me a child abuser. We see you can not man up even when given a chance. I don't address you much but the last time I was wrong about you I posted that fact within minutes to both forums where our peers could see it. I see you are not a man at all, just another yappy dog, barking from under the table.. Keep hiding dude, it's the only way you can stay on these boards.. > This is the second time you have called me white trash, now you call > me a child abuser. There are many forms of child abuse, depending on where you live and who you are. *I* would consider allowing small children to "race" motorcycles child abuse. http://rowdymouseracing.com/media/080702MX_14.mov Rowdy Mouse Racing.... Sponsors needed;) It just hit me.. The first book I ever read on my own as a kid (more than10 pages) was a book titled "The Mouse and The Motorcycle". It was probably the book that sparked "Stewart Smalley".;) > justwaitafrekinmin...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > *I* would consider allowing small children to "race" motorcycles child > abuse. That's because you're an idiot, WAFA >> > Look in your PM box over there. Chuck left a note as to what his intentions >> > are. Krause has to be put on a very short leash if he's allowed to post at [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >You will hereby be dubbed HAFA2 ;) Lots of angels around here. |
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