I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I have
measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
measurements to be sure they were consistent. The result is that the lines
measure between 5/16 and 3/8 for the halyards, and between 3/8 and 7/16 for
the sheets.
Does anyone know if old, weathered lines tend to measure more or less than
their nominal diameter? I.e., are these 5/16, 3/8 or 7/16?
BS
Evan Gatehouse - 22 Jan 2005 00:25 GMT
> I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I have
> measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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> BS
Good question! I would have assumed that they would get thinner but
3/8" halyards on a 25' boat seem pretty overly large. I'd pick 5/16"
for halyards and 3/8" or 7/16" for sheets. Breaking strength isn't a
problem, but ease of fitting through sheaves is important.
Evan Gatehouse
Courtney Thomas - 22 Jan 2005 18:01 GMT
What sized sheets and halyards are recommended for a boat of about
10tons/40' long ?
Thanks,
Courtney
>> I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I
>> have measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat
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> Evan Gatehouse

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Wayne.B - 23 Jan 2005 01:01 GMT
>What sized sheets and halyards are recommended for a boat of about
>10tons/40' long ?
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Using hi-tech material like Spectra (especially worthwhile for
halyards), 5/16 for halyards, 7/16 or 1/2 inch for sheets and guys.
Otherwise you'll need wire halyards at about 5/32 or 3/16, with sheets
and guys at 5/8 dacron.
Wayne.B - 22 Jan 2005 04:21 GMT
>I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I have
>measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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>Does anyone know if old, weathered lines tend to measure more or less than
>their nominal diameter? I.e., are these 5/16, 3/8 or 7/16?
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The loads on a 25 ft boat are not that high so anything 5/16 or
greater should have enough strength. To minimize weight aloft I'd go
with a smaller, low stretch line for the halyards, preferably Spectra.
For the sheets, get something that feels comfortable in your hands,
probably 3/8.
gregg - 22 Jan 2005 12:01 GMT
>>I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I have
>>measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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>>Does anyone know if old, weathered lines tend to measure more or less than
>>their nominal diameter? I.e., are these 5/16, 3/8 or 7/16?
The best indicator would be the blocks - they are sized for a particular
line diameter. Assuming, of course, that the blocks were sized right for
the boat.

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gregg - 22 Jan 2005 13:24 GMT
>>>I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I have
>>>measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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> line diameter. Assuming, of course, that the blocks were sized right for
> the boat.
p.s. and also the block sheaves should be sized for a particular line
diameter, given a certain line material.

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Jim Conlin - 22 Jan 2005 17:04 GMT
Another consideration for sheets is how comfortable the line will be on
the hands when you're pulling on it. If the blocks will tolerate it,
i'd prefer 7/16". Make up a pair of 1/4" sheets for light-weather
conditions.
Daniel - 22 Jan 2005 18:11 GMT
> I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I have
> measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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> BS
Just a curiosity: did you try with a metric gauge???????? Moreover, can
you make a slightly more precise measure: 1/16" indeterminacy is quite
large.
Daniel
Robert or Karen Swarts - 23 Jan 2005 01:12 GMT
Daniel, the problem is that the readings are the same depending on where
along the line they are made. There is probably 1/16 variation. Nor do the
measurements turn out to be an integral number of millimeters.
BS
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>> measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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> Daniel
Tom Dacon - 22 Jan 2005 23:12 GMT
Braided line tends to run larger than the nominal diameter (Samson 7/16",
for instance, measures 1/2"), and I've never seen a synthetic line intended
for use as running rigging measure below. So your line measuring betweeh
5/16 and 3/8 is undoubtedly 5/16, and the other is undoubtedly 3/8.
Old line retains its original diameter, unless it's subjected to strains
near breaking strength.
HTH,
Tom Dacon
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>measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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> BS
Dave W - 23 Jan 2005 16:12 GMT
Having bought the wrong size many times over the years, I always take a
piece of the old line to the store just to make sure.
ddinc - 23 Jan 2005 22:42 GMT
Old lines under tension get smaller.
With todays composite lines, you can probably go smaller.
Do you have lock-offs or cleats?
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>measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat the
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> BS
Didereaux - 24 Jan 2005 15:53 GMT
> I am about to replace the halyards and sheets on my 25' sailboat. I
> have measured the old lines with a caliper, and had my neighbor repeat
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>
> BS
If the hardware is original. the minimum size of lines should be the
maximum size recommended for the sheave. You NEVER put smaller diameter.
Two good reasons: 1. Safety 2. handling ease. larger diameter is easier
on the hands and grips better on the winches and is held better in the
cams. One further reason is that in an emergency ALL lines may be needed
for jobs other than the ones the do normally. Always make certain that
the lines FIT the hardware and if the hardware is not original and looks
a bit light or is smaller than another piece that is original and is in
line with the suspect piece...replace the suspect.
Just because some new material allows for a decrease in line size does
not make it acceptable for any job that matches its load capacity. A
1/4" of kevlar/dacron might very well match your main halyard load
rating...but it won't match the hardware, and it sure as hell won't match
your hands!

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it's true! - 31 Jan 2005 09:28 GMT
My boat is metric- everything on it. My, it's been interesting.
Twilk - 31 Jan 2005 19:35 GMT
In most cases you want the mazimum amount the sheaves will take but you can
expect the lines to run a bit slicker with one size smaller. Check the
blocks.
I splice or jacket up to 7/16 which is the smallest size that is
comfortable in my hands.
Rope strength doesn't mean as much as it used to since lines of much smaller
sizes than we use
have plenty of strength for the job.
It's unlikely to undersize the lines on most boats where strength is
concerned with the quality of the lines we have today. Unless you do some
seriously bad rerigging.