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cleaning an anodized aluminum mast?

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bligh - 25 Jun 2005 05:50 GMT
It's a gold colored matt finish. I think it's called anodizing but has
a faded stripe pattern of wear I'd like to restore if it's possible.
It's horizontal and all the way up the mast. Thanks for any info you
may have.
Steve Lusardi - 26 Jun 2005 20:11 GMT
It is possible to re-anodize, but it must be completely dissassembled and
all aluminum parts to be done must be sanded, repaired, brushed or polished
as the case may be. Any blemishes will really show, so surface prep is
important. The cost will be dependent on the size, as this process is
accomplished in a vat of chemicals.
Steve

> It's a gold colored matt finish. I think it's called anodizing but has
> a faded stripe pattern of wear I'd like to restore if it's possible.
> It's horizontal and all the way up the mast. Thanks for any info you
> may have.
Paul Oman - 27 Jun 2005 18:33 GMT
>It is possible to re-anodize, but it must be completely dissassembled and
>all aluminum parts to be done must be sanded, repaired, brushed or polished
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>It's horizontal and all the way up the mast. Thanks for any info you
>>may ha

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there is an aluminum filled moisture cured urethane paint available that
will almost make it look  like a new galvanized mast and very durable
(albeit not the gold anodized you currently have).

paul oman
jose - 27 Jun 2005 22:35 GMT
>>It is possible to re-anodize, but it must be completely dissassembled and
>>all aluminum parts to be done must be sanded, repaired, brushed or
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> paul oman

What is it?
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jose

gjoyce@optonline.net - 27 Jun 2005 21:32 GMT
> It's a gold colored matt finish. I think it's called anodizing but has
> a faded stripe pattern of wear I'd like to restore if it's possible.
> It's horizontal and all the way up the mast. Thanks for any info you
> may have.

There's an interesting thread on DIY anodizing at www.catsailor.com in
their open forum ... follow some of the links which also will give you
a good look as well ...

And they actually talk about how to do a mast (it does have to be
completely immersed, but somebody came up with what I thought was a
neat trick for that ), how to do color and more

Interesting read if nothing else

gary
Terry Spragg - 28 Jun 2005 13:49 GMT
>>It's a gold colored matt finish. I think it's called anodizing but has
>>a faded stripe pattern of wear I'd like to restore if it's possible.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> gary

You some kinda shill, paid to get us to spend hours logging in and
groping for one article?  Please post a direct url. this sounds like
a goodie.  Do they use a sponge wired to an electroplater to do the
mast without immersing it?

We used to have a similar kit for doing gold plating on electrical
terminals in military connectors. It used a deadly poisonous gold
cyanide plating paste, and an electrical "Q" tip. The gold was a "B"
class consumable!  Could never figure out how to actually order the
gold, though;-)

Thanks,
Terry K
Terry Spragg - 28 Jun 2005 14:40 GMT
>>> It's a gold colored matt finish. I think it's called anodizing but has
>>> a faded stripe pattern of wear I'd like to restore if it's possible.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> goodie.  Do they use a sponge wired to an electroplater to do the mast
> without immersing it?

OK, I'm back.  Try this one:
http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Test&Number=48319&page=&
view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=all&vc=1

Terry K

> We used to have a similar kit for doing gold plating on electrical
> terminals in military connectors. It used a deadly poisonous gold
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks,
> Terry K
Roger Derby - 29 Jun 2005 10:52 GMT
If you want to, Google "gold plating wand" and ignore the Harry Potter hits.
Rio Grande used to sell the kits, but I couldn't navigate their web site.
Check out http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/plugnplate.htm  if you really
want to build a goldplater.

According to Caswell, for aluminum, you first "zincate," then nickel plate,
and then put on the gold.

Note this is not at all the same thing as anodizing.

Roger
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http://home.earthlink.net/~derbyrm

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> We used to have a similar kit for doing gold plating on electrical
> terminals in military connectors. It used a deadly poisonous gold cyanide
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks,
> Terry K
Brian Whatcott - 30 Jun 2005 04:44 GMT
To plate an anodized mast, you would need to strip it completely first
(back to bare metal that is - losing the thick oxide film.)

Brian Whatcott

>If you want to, Google "gold plating wand" and ignore the Harry Potter hits.
>Rio Grande used to sell the kits, but I couldn't navigate their web site.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>> Thanks,
>> Terry K
gjoyce@optonline.net - 30 Jun 2005 13:16 GMT
To all, my apologies ... didn't mean to leave y'all with that "go to
catsailors.com" message regharding DIY anodizing ...here's, the address
for the thread ...

http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Test&Number=48319&page=6
&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1


again ...apologies

gary
Terry Spragg - 30 Jun 2005 14:59 GMT
> To plate an anodized mast, you would need to strip it completely first
> (back to bare metal that is - losing the thick oxide film.)
>
> Brian Whatcott

Well, sure, so far, but the wonderful thing about future shoK! is
that once in a while, a problem you thought you had was solved
yesterday and you just needed to find the solution amidst the monkey
trees and buffalo stampeed.

For all I know, there is now a blue goo nano paste that will
monogram the entire mast in my monogram, etched in real emeralds, a la:

  ______________
        |
        |  /\
        | /  \
        |/
        |\
        | \
        |  \
    \      /
     \    /
      \  /
       \/

Imagine that, all in heart shaped emeralds, sparkly green on ebony,
like a Guuci handbag, at 500 bucks a gallon, spray or roller
applicable, printed plastic overlay film artwork and batteries not
included. It will work like galvanic corrosion does.

It's coming, it's gonna be popular.

Why not yesterday?

Programmed marketing of technology is why not. Advertising budgets
is why not, we all got to buy the black and white version, first.
Distributorships need to be sold, first. Psyches need to be molded,
first.

I thought there was news on the horizon.  I thought there was a
revelation in the wind.

Terry K

>>If you want to, Google "gold plating wand" and ignore the Harry Potter hits.
>>Rio Grande used to sell the kits, but I couldn't navigate their web site.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>>Thanks,
>>>Terry K
Brian Whatcott - 30 Jun 2005 17:36 GMT
Look again at what you wrote here.
You come off fine. It is in this territory that you belong.
The poet, the fantasy writer...like that.
It's fresh insightful, good stuff.
But maybe you don't realise this...yet?

Stay away from the technical hum-drum details.
That's not your forte.  
 You sometimes come off manic almost, when
you try that style.
You have promise.

Brian   Whatcott    Altus OK

>> To plate an anodized mast, you would need to strip it completely first
>> (back to bare metal that is - losing the thick oxide film.)
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Terry K
Terry Spragg - 06 Jul 2005 06:03 GMT
> Look again at what you wrote here.
> You come off fine. It is in this territory that you belong.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Brian   Whatcott    Altus OK

Thank you, Brian.  I am truely flattered. You have perqued me up
unmeasurably.

Pray tell, what is an "Altus, OK."  Is that a town still mercifully
 lost in Oklahoma's hills?

Here are some things for you:

If the world is now smaller, too small perhaps, is getting too
dense too, is our information lost in raw cold data's sleets with
gravity's skills to slow our sight and buzz our ears and dull are
tastes?

I was a tech, so tech writing be, came drolls.  Policy and practice
mundane to some but needed by others wanted Murphy's ex-collusion.
Now he is welcome, if falling down lets people rise again.

If Ever wrote "One was all", could techs enforce ill logic?

Seems sometimes words fail less mispeld. Do doubt, for miss' spells
park dual views, and drewled appetites far moored.

The words for rock and roll are rote bivalent purpose, to kook
together thought as stew, to sink as many hungers can be holed.

No water, with few loaves nor fishes, could urge much use of salt .

Can we muzzel oxen who tread for US a gain?

Do we not lend, but to friends? Can our bakers be forgiven for
eating, when they knead?

Great gain by usery is crime, big time. Don't dine on wrung out
bloody whines, then let them not "Eat cake!" Nor paie pay outré.

The spinners and the weavers together make strong cloth, and
drummers' sticks knit, not plucked strings, forced melodies, and
ropes' needs control the sail.

The fisherman pulls the strings and nets, collects, the cast. Let
mercies not all fail.

The garment is invisible 'til warmed by living flesh. The soul here
rests a foot, not seen, but herd's loud shoes on horses.

Let me be smoke in God's knows, if He'd have me in His garden, and
share a fire, even a cup, dregs cool my flames and thirst.

Let me be lowest grease, if new ships slide down ways to fish, and
let me be not first,

but in your service, somehow Lord.

-Terry K, who wanted to play live 8, but wasn't axed "B sharp."
Number 9?

-SofDevCo- Brains for rent. Try phoner25.zip

Copyright reserved.

>>>To plate an anodized mast, you would need to strip it completely first
>>>(back to bare metal that is - losing the thick oxide film.)
[quoted text clipped - 65 lines]
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Terry K
Brian Whatcott - 06 Jul 2005 12:53 GMT
I am often asked. Altus is a small town of 20 thousand.
Aircrew learn their cargo/refuel tasks here - the main activity.
South West Oklahoma is reflecting the national trend - country folk
slowly slowly draining into big towns.   Houses are cheap. People
smile and say hello.  Even the pretty girls.   An old man can be happy
in the company.   Your imagination runs strong below - as always,
threading the pearls into a string is the name of the game

Brian

>> Look again at what you wrote here.
>> You come off fine. It is in this territory that you belong.
[quoted text clipped - 139 lines]
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Terry K
 
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