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Mixing differant Resin Manufactures

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Dave Allyn - 22 Sep 2005 20:17 GMT
I just got the resin delivered for my first boat.  I got a 1.5 gallon
kit, and was wondering, if I run short, can I get a pint kit from a
differant supplier and have them bond to each other okay?  Obviously I
would not mix one companies part A, with another companies part B, but
say I use up all the 1.5 gallons I have, and want another coat on the
bottom or something.  Can I get a pint kit from a differant supplier
and expect it to work okay?

thanks,

dave

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Jim Conlin - 22 Sep 2005 23:13 GMT
Yes.
[Usual precautions about what you should do for secondary bonds- cleaning
and sanding]
> I just got the resin delivered for my first boat.  I got a 1.5 gallon
> kit, and was wondering, if I run short, can I get a pint kit from a
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noexpert - 22 Sep 2005 23:56 GMT
How can someone determine what kind of resin  has been used if  rework etc
is necessary?

> Yes.
> [Usual precautions about what you should do for secondary bonds- cleaning
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mike.e.worrall@abc.com - 23 Sep 2005 03:46 GMT
The smell.  Polyester resin will always smell 'plastic like' when even
slightly abraded.  Epoxy doesn't.

MW

How can someone determine what kind of resin  has been used if  rework
etc is necessary?
Evan Gatehouse - 23 Sep 2005 06:10 GMT
> I just got the resin delivered for my first boat.  I got a 1.5 gallon
> kit, and was wondering, if I run short, can I get a pint kit from a
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With epoxy, uh, no unless you are particularly lucky.
Different resin suppliers make resins with different
chemistry.  You'd be lucky to have them harden.

Evan Gatehouse
Dave Allyn - 23 Sep 2005 06:47 GMT
>> I just got the resin delivered for my first boat.  I got a 1.5 gallon
>> kit, and was wondering, if I run short, can I get a pint kit from a
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>> bottom or something.  Can I get a pint kit from a differant supplier
>> and expect it to work okay?

>With epoxy, uh, no unless you are particularly lucky.
>Different resin suppliers make resins with different
>chemistry.  You'd be lucky to have them harden.
>
>Evan Gatehouse

Even if I use the correct hardner?  

Example:  I use 1.5 Gal kit from Raka.  I run out, and so order a pint
kit from system-3.  I use the S3 resin with the S3 hardner.  will it
bond okay to the Raka resin, that was mixed with the Raka hardner?

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luckettg - 23 Sep 2005 11:47 GMT
Yes, if applied over completely cured resin, and if the base is
properely prepped by washing off the wax, then sanding.

> >> I just got the resin delivered for my first boat.  I got a 1.5 gallon
> >> kit, and was wondering, if I run short, can I get a pint kit from a
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Glenn Ashmore - 23 Sep 2005 12:32 GMT
"Dave Allyn" <dallyn_spam@yahoo.com> wrote> Even if I use the correct
hardner?

> Example:  I use 1.5 Gal kit from Raka.  I run out, and so order a pint
> kit from system-3.  I use the S3 resin with the S3 hardner.  will it
> bond okay to the Raka resin, that was mixed with the Raka hardner?

I believe the answer would be "kinda, sorta".  If the original layer is
cured, clean and lightly sanded the new epoxy will bond very well but I
would not do it on highly stressed parts.  Flexibility of the cured resin
varies considerably.  I have found Raka to be a bit brittle compared to
System3 and bulk brands like FGCI's laminating resin to be considerably more
flexible.  If all the coats don't yield at the same rate the ultimate
strength will suffer..

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dbohara@mindspring.com - 23 Sep 2005 15:17 GMT
I used West hardener with resin from Glen-L (and  vice versa) with no
problems.
John Cassara - 27 Sep 2005 20:41 GMT
I have 40 year old boat I am repairing. Are you proposing that I must
determine the original resin manufacturer in order to facilitate my repair?

That's preposterous!

>I just got the resin delivered for my first boat.  I got a 1.5 gallon
> kit, and was wondering, if I run short, can I get a pint kit from a
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> please respond in this NG so others
> can share your wisdom as well!
 
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