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Boat Forum / Building / November 2005Pretty but unsailable
Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on Lake Fairview in Orlando. They had a shelter under which were several handmade boats including a Stevenson Projects "Weekender" that was a true work of art. She was made from Southern Yellow Pine finished and sealed to perfection with a clear coat. Every detail was perfect and she almost glowed. She even had custom made sails from some sort of tanbark colored material. I was seriously impressed. She was for sale, asking price was $9000. This seems very high for such a small boat but not for a work of art. I could imagine someone buying this boat not to sail but just as an object of beauty but where would you put her? Any sailing use would very quickly spoil her looks so I can only think her builder had decided she wouldnt be sailed long before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the motivation of her builder. 9 grand is pretty good motivation. Someone will buy it. >Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team >and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the >motivation of her builder. You say that is was a real piece of art. Is making a nice piece of art not good enough as motivation? > Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team > and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the > motivation of her builder. I wonder if it was the "Harmony Boat Works" weekender. It was built by a very competent builder as a show piece for the company. Considering that you can build a Weekender yourself for a fraction of the cost, not many people were interested so the boat has just sat doing nothing. I don't know if the company still exists or not. Their web site is no longer up. I'm in the midst of a Weekender myself right now - hopefully for a lot less than $9,000 although I'm definately no craftsman.  SignatureAndrew Butchart andrew@floatingbear.ca > Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team > and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the > motivation of her builder. > Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly. To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew crew" or "Team team". Or nit nit? How about crew/team? Roger derbyrm@NOSPAMinsightbbNOSPAM.com http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm >> Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew > crew" or "Team team". >> Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew > crew" or "Team team". Not quite, the crew would be only the people who are in the boat, while the team could be all of the people associated with the boat including the coach, equipment manager, sponsor, mascot, cheerleaders, and so forth. So the crew team could be the crew and associated personnel. > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew > crew" or "Team team". Or Boutros Boutros? >> To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew >> crew" or "Team team". > >Or Boutros Boutros? hehehe,.... oh, sorry, I'm not meant to be laughing, am I? :-) Brian Whatcott Altus OK >> Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew > crew" or "Team team". You tell'm, Raoul :{)) L8R Skip, Frosh, JV and Varsity small college champ seat 5, many years ago However, unless you're a rower, that's a totally common mistake, and most of us rowers let it slide (well, you did know that the only "real" rowing has lots of sliding, didn't you??)... SignatureMorgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what it's officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly split in actual usage: http://www.truesport.com/Row/links.htm Brian D >> Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew > crew" or "Team team". > I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what it's > officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of > Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That > said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly split > in actual usage: Not suprising that OSU can't get it right. It is a rowing crew OR a rowing team. Not both. And I don't care what you or anyone else says. The University of Washington DOES NOT have a crew team. I was on the comittiee that researched and advised the guy who wrote the history of Washington Crew for our Centennial in 2003. No where will you find Washington referred to as a "crew team". That is shear ignorance. raoul Washington '78 > http://www.truesport.com/Row/links.htm > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew > > crew" or "Team team". Nit pick all you want. My son is on the crew rowing team, get over it. >> I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what it's >> officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of >> Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That >> said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly split >> in actual usage: >Not suprising that OSU can't get it right. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >raoul >> >> Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew >> > crew" or "Team team". Raoul was so sure (not to mention condescending, about OSU) I felt the call to Google using this string:"crew team" Hmmmm.. Georgetown and Bryn Mawr web sites both refer to their crew team. Well, what do you know? (You actually have to pay real money to get into those, unlike WU) Oh! and Western Washington U mentions their crew team.... :-) Brian (more in sorrow) Whatcott > >> I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what > >> it's [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > to get into those, unlike WU) Oh! and Western Washington U > mentions their crew team.... Perhaps they are all wrong? To compare the rowing programs at these other places to Washington's is laughable. |
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