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ughh,.. how do you cut stainless steel plate?

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ready aboot! - 23 Nov 2005 09:32 GMT
It's 1/8in plate, dull and greasy, probably 304. I buggered the
bandsaw blade, then two "hardened carbide, blah, blah" jig saw blades,
a file, a diamond file, then got a beefy angle grinder and gouged
grooves in it and forced it through what was left of the bandsaw metal
blade, dressed it fairly straight with the grinder and ground it to
shape on a big bench sander with gnarly grit paper. This took several
frustrating hours. There was course language and graphic violence. It
won't fit in the power hacksaw because of it's initial shape. Is there
an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
thing locally. Thanks as always.
David Clark - 23 Nov 2005 12:30 GMT
An average bandsaw or jigsaw blade WILL cut stainless steel. The trick is
running the blade very slowly, with plenty of cutting oil and plenty of
patience. If you do rush then it will bugger the blades, but thats the only
reason. Stainless steel can work harden, but this shouldn't present a
problem with what you are doing.

Good luck,
Dave

> It's 1/8in plate, dull and greasy, probably 304. I buggered the
> bandsaw blade, then two "hardened carbide, blah, blah" jig saw blades,
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> an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
> thing locally. Thanks as always.
imagineero - 23 Nov 2005 12:33 GMT
we do a fair bit of stainless sheet at work, guillotine is nice and
fast, accurate.  if you dont have the money to buy one then mark it out
and take it to a local engineering mob with a 6 pack near closing time.
plasma is ok for big fat pieces with tricky cuts, but the guilotine is
the way to go.  forget the bandsaw.  There are some nice blades we have
for angle grinders that are *really* thin...  you've got to be precise
using them because if you twist while cutting or push to hard they just
explode.  They were made for stainless and a bit pricy, but they are
really good and accurate, and you can get semi-good life out of them if
you use only a little pressure.

You didnt say what dimensions/shape you are trying to cut
Glenn Ashmore - 23 Nov 2005 14:18 GMT
You have to be very aggressive with 300 series stainless.  It will work
harden at the surface of the kerf and the next tooth has to get behind it or
it will quickly burn up.  It really needs a metal cutting bandsaw that can
be run slow with a lot of coolant.  For one or two straight cuts you would
be much better off taking it to a metal shop and have them shear it.

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> It's 1/8in plate, dull and greasy, probably 304. I buggered the
> bandsaw blade, then two "hardened carbide, blah, blah" jig saw blades,
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> an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
> thing locally. Thanks as always.
derbyrm - 23 Nov 2005 14:49 GMT
I went thru this a few months ago.  Someone suggested "burning" it by
putting a disposable saw blade in the table saw.  It worked fine, but do
clean up any sawdust that's laying around since the fireworks are
impressive.  The theory is that the blade has time to cool as it moves from
the cutting point around the perimeter, but the SS doesn't.  I used a 6"
plywood blade that had been expended trying to cut Masonite.  The cut edges
do have to be cleaned up with a grinder.

For drilling 1" holes in 1/4" plate, I got to 1/2" but that was the limit
for my 1/4 hp drill press.  The local machine shop charged a minimal fee and
used a machine that's bigger than my car.

Roger
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> It's 1/8in plate, dull and greasy, probably 304. I buggered the
> bandsaw blade, then two "hardened carbide, blah, blah" jig saw blades,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
> thing locally. Thanks as always.
Denis Marier - 23 Nov 2005 17:16 GMT
I do not know what you are exactly cutting? So suggesting the appropriate
method may not be practically feasible.
However, be careful when shearing and stamping stainless steel.
I had to replaced chain plates that were originally made by shearing and
stamping. I detected hair line cracks around the shearing and punching.
The probabilities of finding hair line cracks after shearing, stamping and
punching are about 50%. It's like flipping a coin in the air. The hair line
cracks will develop with time and exposure to saline atmosphere.
Conversely if the part is not subject to stress , impact or heavy load
stamping, shearing and punching will save you money.
Depending what you are making, sometime it is safer to use flat bar stock
drill and cut to length with the appropriate cutting compound. If you have
access to a shop that uses plasma cutting you may be able to get an
affordable quote for getting your work done.

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> I went thru this a few months ago.  Someone suggested "burning" it by
> putting a disposable saw blade in the table saw.  It worked fine, but do
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> > an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
> > thing locally. Thanks as always.
steamer - 23 Nov 2005 17:53 GMT
    --304 is awful stuff to work with. Suggest you contact local
welding shop and see if you can use a plasma torch for a few minutes;
they cut this stuff like soft butter. You'll have to clean up the cut
edge with a grinder but the bulk of the grunt work will be done.
    --If you're planning on doing a *lot* of this stuff you might
want to invest in your own plasma rig; they go for around $1k.

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Brian Whatcott - 23 Nov 2005 22:39 GMT
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:32:39 GMT, somebody  wrote:

>It's 1/8in plate, dull and greasy, probably 304. I buggered the
>bandsaw blade, then two "hardened carbide, blah, blah" jig saw blades,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
>thing locally. Thanks as always.

SS is work hardening. You use lubricant (kerosene if I recall,) and a
hearty feed. It's tough. In a power bandsaw, you use a bimetal blade
of course, but for choice its one made by ..er.. aw shucks I can't
dredge up the name, but I will..... Maddox, Braddox - no,  Lenox -
that's the ticket.

Brian Whatcott    Altus OK
Terry Spragg - 24 Nov 2005 01:37 GMT
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:32:39 GMT, somebody  wrote:
>
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>
> Brian Whatcott    Altus OK

According to the then owner of Metal Masters in Toronto, (who's name
I cannor recall, quite disgracefully, one of my failings,) when I
arrived on a saturday after a 3 hour drive to find the door open and
the place deserted, and called him from his desk and put coffee on
and waited, and then bought some perforated toerail for my SC22 (for
NO discount!) and chatted with him about his exploits in Nazi
Germany the day before war was declared by England, while he was
escaping by the skin of his teeth from a large manufacturing plant
that was filling up with Storm trooper guys carrying sub machine
guns, where machinists were using white hot bandsaws to cut out big
gun breech blocks, when he asked the saw operator "Vas is das?" as
he sprinkled a white powder in the saw kerf, noticibly improving
cutting and cooling, he got the reply "Borax."

Flux, lubrication and cooling is critical when machining SS.

He walked out calmly and took that gem back to England with him,
where it helped the allied war effort considerably, he felt.

Terry K
ready aboot! - 24 Nov 2005 07:40 GMT
Terry, you wild font of esoterica. Borax,.. hmm. tanks much.

>> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:32:39 GMT, somebody  wrote:
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>
>Terry K
Peter Wiley - 25 Nov 2005 10:11 GMT
Plasma cutter.

> It's 1/8in plate, dull and greasy, probably 304. I buggered the
> bandsaw blade, then two "hardened carbide, blah, blah" jig saw blades,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> an easier way? We don't have a pneumatic metal stamper, cutter, shear
> thing locally. Thanks as always.
 
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