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MMC - 18 Mar 2006 19:29 GMT
I've got some old Lexan that still has the protective paper on it and last
weekend used a piece for a science project with my daughter.
The project, a simple solar oven, would have taken us about 1.5 hours to
build, but when I broke out a piece of the Lexan, I had the worst time
getting the adhesive off that was holding the protective paper. This took 3
hours, experimenting with soap, vinager, kroll oil, even acetone (small
scrape- ruined), and I finally gave up and used a window scraper which
ruined the surface. Worked ok for the oven, but wouldn't want my ports or
companionway boards to look like that!
I've had this stuff sitting around, waiting for a project, for more than 10
years in Florida heat and humidity.
I'd like to be able to use the rest and need advice on getting the
paper/adhesive off.
Thanks, MMC
dadiOH - 18 Mar 2006 20:02 GMT
> I've got some old Lexan that still has the protective paper on it and
> last weekend used a piece for a science project with my daughter.
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> paper/adhesive off.
> Thanks, MMC

I just cut a piece a few days ago that was even older (16 years), peeled
off the paper.  It didn't want to come off easily, paper kept wanting to
tear...when it did I stopped and started working from another area.
Took maybe 5 minutes for a piece about 1 sq.ft.  I'm in Florida too.

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bBob - 18 Mar 2006 22:44 GMT
> I've got some old Lexan that still has the protective paper on it and last
> weekend used a piece for a science project with my daughter.
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> I'd like to be able to use the rest and need advice on getting the
> paper/adhesive off.

Heat gun
Evonpera - 18 Mar 2006 22:58 GMT
@#@

I use automotive wax and oil remover, body shops use this product before
painting.Does not damage paint or plastic surfaces.

BT.

> I've got some old Lexan that still has the protective paper on it and last
> weekend used a piece for a science project with my daughter.
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> paper/adhesive off.
> Thanks, MMC
Glenn Ashmore - 18 Mar 2006 23:02 GMT
I use Goof Off adhesive remover.  Works well and does not seem to haze the
plastic.   Also a big believer in McGuire's Plastic Polish.  Even use it on
my old Maui Jims.

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> I've got some old Lexan that still has the protective paper on it and last
> weekend used a piece for a science project with my daughter.
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> paper/adhesive off.
> Thanks, MMC
Jim Conlin - 19 Mar 2006 02:03 GMT
Start at the bottom of the ladder of solvents and escalate 'til someone
wins.
My progression is:
Mineral spirits (aka paint thinner, tar & oil remover)
Toluene (AKA goof-off)
Lacquer thinner
Acetone
dynamite or nitric acid (joke)

> I've got some old Lexan that still has the protective paper on it and last
> weekend used a piece for a science project with my daughter.
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> paper/adhesive off.
> Thanks, MMC
Drew Dalgleish - 19 Mar 2006 07:24 GMT
This almost ranks as an FAQ on the aviation homebuilders lists and if
I had a real good memory I could say with authority many find success
using methel alcohol.

>Start at the bottom of the ladder of solvents and escalate 'til someone
>wins.
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>> paper/adhesive off.
>> Thanks, MMC
John Cassara - 19 Mar 2006 17:48 GMT
Steam ?

> Start at the bottom of the ladder of solvents and escalate 'til someone
> wins.
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>> paper/adhesive off.
>> Thanks, MMC
MMC - 19 Mar 2006 19:16 GMT
Plenty of options to try BEFORE I actually need to use this stuff again.
Never had any dynamite and I'm all out of C-4 so that option's a no-go.
Acetone instantly ruins the finish.
Thanks everyone.
MMC

> Steam ?
>
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> >> paper/adhesive off.
> >> Thanks, MMC
bBob - 19 Mar 2006 19:55 GMT
> Plenty of options to try BEFORE I actually need to use this stuff again.
> Never had any dynamite and I'm all out of C-4 so that option's a no-go.

> Acetone instantly ruins the finish.
As will many of the 'tips' folks have suggested you 'try'.

This topic was covered a few months ago and the owner of Spectre Products
(who has been working Lexan for many years) posted "the best way to remove
the paper is with a heat gun".

So if you want to get the job done, use a heat gun. If you want to
experiment (and ruin the finish, make a mess, or start a fire) then use
chemicals.
Bob - 20 Mar 2006 00:58 GMT
> > Acetone instantly ruins the finish.
> As will many of the 'tips' folks have suggested you 'try'.

Listen to bBob............
He has the right idea.

LEXAN CLEANING

The use of solvents which are not compatible with Lexan - polycarbonate
will result in the softening, crazing, and/or cracking of the plastic
part. This is especially true of polycarbonate lamps and mounting bases
which may be under stress in their normal applications.  Polycarbonate
panels are resistant to some chemical and products non-resistant to
others. Resistance can be effected by the chemical concentration,
duration of exposure, degree of pressure and temperature at time of
contact.

SOLVENTS/CLEANERS COMPATIBLE WITH POLYCARBONATE:
Mild soap and water
Mineral Spirits
Mexane
VM and P Naphtha
Varsol No.2
#1 & #3 denatured alcohol
Freone TF and TE-35
Ethanol
10% Sol Bon Ami
Dirtex
2% Sol. Reg. Joy
Heptane
White Kerosene
Methyl, isopropyl and isobutyl alcohols
Lacryl PCL-2035 polycarbonate cleaner
Petroleum Ether/65 degrees C boiling point
Acetic Acid
Ammonium Chloride
Antimony Chloride
Borax in Water
Butane
Calcium Chloride
Calcium Hypochloride
Carbon Dioxide
Carbon Monoxide
Citric Acid - 10%
Copper Sulphate
Ethyl Alcohol - 95%
Ethylene Glycol
Formain - 10%
Hydrochloric Acid - 20%
Hydroflouric Acid - 5%
Mercury
Methane
Oxygen
Ozone
Sulphur
Water
Urea      (You just might want to say piss on it......................)

SOLVENTS/CLEANERS NOT TO BE USED WITH POLYCARBONATE:
Acetone
Acrylonitrile
Ammonia
Amyl Acetate
Benzene
Bromine
Butyl Acetate
Caustic Soda
Chloroform
Dimethyl Formamide
Hydrochloric Acid-Conc.
Hydroflouric Acid-Conc.
Iodine
Methanol
Methyl Ethyl Ketone
Perchloroethylene
Styrene
Toluol
Sulphuric Acid-Conc.
Xylene
Cyclohexone    Glycerine    Sulphur Dioxide
Diesel Oil    HeatingFuel    Turpentine
Formic Acid    Jet Fuel   
Gasoline    Perchloric Acid-Conc.   

Another BOb
MMC - 21 Mar 2006 00:37 GMT
Thanks Another Bob!
Got to able to get somewhere with the goodies on your list. Hopefully
without guys in dark suits escorting me....
MMC

> > > Acetone instantly ruins the finish.
> > As will many of the 'tips' folks have suggested you 'try'.
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>
> Another BOb
MMC - 21 Mar 2006 14:58 GMT
Tried the heat gun-didn't work and warped the Lexan. The adhesive is a hard
solid after all these years.
If "owner of Spectre Products (who has been working Lexan for many years)"
had a piece of THIS Lexan he'd be looking for another option also.
I've been using chemicals, in one form or another, all my life and haven't
burnt anything down yet.
MMC

> > Plenty of options to try BEFORE I actually need to use this stuff again.
> > Never had any dynamite and I'm all out of C-4 so that option's a no-go.
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> experiment (and ruin the finish, make a mess, or start a fire) then use
> chemicals.
rta144@aol.com - 20 Mar 2006 16:41 GMT
There is a product called Adhesive release that will help remove
covering.  It is made by Seal.  It is listed as "Unseal Adhesive
Releasing Solvent".  It is made by Hunt Corporation, Statesville, NC
28677.

You could also check with a picture frame supplier.  Most carry it.

If you can not find it send me an e-mail.  I can get some for you.

Thanks Ron
MMC - 21 Mar 2006 00:28 GMT
Thanks Ron.
I did a search for this stuff with no luck, do you know what the active
ingredient is?
MMC
> There is a product called Adhesive release that will help remove
> covering.  It is made by Seal.  It is listed as "Unseal Adhesive
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>
> Thanks Ron
rta144@aol.com - 21 Mar 2006 17:08 GMT
The can says that the active ingredient is Heptane.  Then it says it
also contains benzene and toulene.

We use it on plex all the time.  Great product.  Go to any frame shop
and the can get you a can.  Called adhesive release.

Ron
Keith - 22 Mar 2006 12:32 GMT
Benzene and Toluene? Geez, can you say "Carcinogenic"?
MMC - 27 Mar 2006 20:55 GMT
Thanks Ron, I'll give it a shot.

> The can says that the active ingredient is Heptane.  Then it says it
> also contains benzene and toulene.
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>
> Ron
 
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