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Homemade 12v autopilot?

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ray lunder - 29 Mar 2006 08:43 GMT
Any pictures or ideas out there for a homemade autopilot for a medium
weight 23' sailboat? This has wheel steering. I'm thinking of when
there's no wind and you want to maintain a course for a few minutes to
hand sail or tidy up.
Did you know there's a band called autopilot? Isn't google great?
derbyrm - 29 Mar 2006 14:37 GMT
Did you Google "sailboat self steering"???

Lots of pertinent hits.  There's also a neat book on setting up various
arrangements after you map the transfer function (helm to heading) for your
boat.

Unfortunately, most of these are for tiller systems and are related to
keeping a heading while under sail.  If you are wanting to steer in a calm,
you'll need a heading sensor; gyro or mag compass.  (or a very stable boat)

A friend was into homebuilt autopilots for his experimental aircraft.  For
heading change he put an optical sensor on the edge of his gyro compass (see
eBay for directional gyros).  He sensed pitch and roll with puffs of air
which traveled up between four temperature sensors (thermistors) and
generated differential cooling if the aircraft moved as the puff traveled
past (a NASA scheme).  You might send the air puffs horizontally to give a
heading change rate?  His puffs were generated with a small air pump, but he
was converting to a speaker generated puff when we last discussed it.  The
system flew as well as the costly commercial units.  Of course the actuator
is tough.  As an alternative to moving the wheel, you might consider a trim
tab since you're talking short term use.

Roger
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http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm

> Any pictures or ideas out there for a homemade autopilot for a medium
> weight 23' sailboat? This has wheel steering. I'm thinking of when
> there's no wind and you want to maintain a course for a few minutes to
> hand sail or tidy up.
> Did you know there's a band called autopilot? Isn't google great?
Ron Magen - 29 Mar 2006 16:20 GMT
Ray,
Use the K.I.S.S. principle . . .

The 'Age of Sail' types simply put the eye-spliced ends on lines over two of
the 'handles' around the wheel.

Today's sailor could use a couple of pieces of 'bungee cord' to do the same
thing. If you don't have handles, it's easy enough to set-up a toggle
system, or use a couple of padded hooks.

I use one length, stretched from the Port & Starboard aft docking cleats,
and make a twist {for a loop}to hold the stick at whatever slight angle I
need. Simple enough to slide a hook along and 'capture' it in the loop. {for
a wheel}

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

> Any pictures or ideas out there for a homemade autopilot for a medium
> weight 23' sailboat? This has wheel steering. I'm thinking of when
> there's no wind and you want to maintain a course for a few minutes to
> hand sail or tidy up.
> Did you know there's a band called autopilot? Isn't google great?
ray lunder - 30 Mar 2006 11:10 GMT
>Ray,
>Use the K.I.S.S. principle . . .
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Ron Magen
>Backyard Boatshop

I always seem to be on the wrong side of the lines with this setup and
end up hopping back and forth and ducking under and climbing over.
But- if one shock cord line went to a hook on the base of the binnacle
and the other to a rail that would leave the opposite rail free to
move around on.
But to be truthful, I sort of imagined a grand system with a discarded
TV antenna rotator driving an ingenious cluster of complex hidden
gears that was self correcting and only used a fraction of an amp,..
and made sandwiches and,.. oh well. Thanks.

>> Any pictures or ideas out there for a homemade autopilot for a medium
>> weight 23' sailboat? This has wheel steering. I'm thinking of when
>> there's no wind and you want to maintain a course for a few minutes to
>> hand sail or tidy up.
>> Did you know there's a band called autopilot? Isn't google great?
Wayne.B - 31 Mar 2006 00:23 GMT
>an ingenious cluster of complex hidden
>gears that was self correcting and only used a fraction of an amp,..
>and made sandwiches and,..

Have you considered a wife or girl friend?

....many, many complex hidden gears, and will sometimes make
sandwiches,...    :-)
ray lunder - 31 Mar 2006 06:03 GMT
>>an ingenious cluster of complex hidden
>>gears that was self correcting and only used a fraction of an amp,..
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>....many, many complex hidden gears, and will sometimes make
>sandwiches,...    :-)

Oh, yes, I've tried this approach on a number of occasions but the
expense and upkeep was crippling- you people must be millionaires. I
also found the instructions confussing as hell and these units tend to
be highly tempermental, often exploding for no forseeable reason.
That and the knees are gone now so,..
 
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