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lee308@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2004 17:43 GMT
If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
would you need? assuming you anchored out, never at a marina, returned
to Florida once every 3/4 months for supplies and had a quite hurricane
season?
Jeff Morris - 18 Dec 2004 18:34 GMT
> If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
> at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
> would you need? assuming you anchored out, never at a marina, returned
> to Florida once every 3/4 months for supplies and had a quite hurricane
> season?

You might ask that question on alt.sailing.asa.  Capt Neal, the resident
curmudgeon there, recently returned from such a trip.  Of course, you
might not like the answer, but it will be fun for others to watch.
krj - 18 Dec 2004 22:28 GMT
> If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
> at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
> would you need? assuming you anchored out, never at a marina, returned
> to Florida once every 3/4 months for supplies and had a quite hurricane
> season?

$150 Bahamas entry fee, good for one return to florida and re-entry.
Returning every 3 months, $300 in entry fees. No ice for cold beer?
krj
lee308@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2004 23:34 GMT
> $150 Bahamas entry fee, good for one return to florida and re-entry.
> Returning every 3 months, $300 in entry fees. No ice for cold beer?
> krj
Correct, I don't plan on using ice. I'ts a hassle and I'm trying to
"get away from it all". I will have to stop in the islands for water
and nothing else. Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's. Beer, yes, but
warm.
LEnfantduVent - 19 Dec 2004 00:32 GMT
Ahoy There:
Used to cruise pretty much as you described it.  Try gin-and-tonic
instead of warm beer.  Lots of rice and bottles of Ragu/etc.
Have a GREAT TIME

LEnfantduVent
Doug Dotson - 19 Dec 2004 00:40 GMT
Nothing else matters. You'll never know you are in the Bahamas if
you eat MREs and warm beer all the time. Might as well stay in FL
which is about as dull as MREs and warm beer anyway.
Beer is $35/case  in Bahamas so bring all you can. In a 26 ft boat that will
be
about 2 weeks worth so a trip back every 3/4 months might not work
Interesting that Kalik is selling for $17.99/case here in Baltimore but
still
$35.00/case in Bahamas.

Doug

>> $150 Bahamas entry fee, good for one return to florida and re-entry.
>> Returning every 3 months, $300 in entry fees. No ice for cold beer?
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> and nothing else. Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's. Beer, yes, but
> warm.
JAXAshby - 19 Dec 2004 02:59 GMT
>Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's.

yeah, sure.  *each* MRE has upwards of 2,200, and *three* are REQUIRED to meet
--minimum-- protein RDA for an adult male.

dood, MRE's developed for young, physically fit troops humping **heavy** loads
out in the field for *maybe* two weeks at a stretch.

So, dood, what have *you* done in the last ten days, physically wise?

Let us guess. You read two copies of 1930's Mechanix Ilustraded??

good, dood.  next week you go to Home Depot.
Johnhh - 19 Dec 2004 03:23 GMT
Why the flame Jax?  I didn't see where he said he was going to subsist on
MREs alone.

> >Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's.
>
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>
> good, dood.  next week you go to Home Depot.
Jamies - 19 Dec 2004 13:08 GMT
John

JAX behaves here like a sociopath who feels it is his duty to infest
every reply he is compelled to offer with ignorant insults and rude
remarks. He's here because in the "real world" he discovered that every
time he opens his foul mouth someone kicks his sorry a.s. Coming here
gives Jax a (false) sense of control.

If it wasn't for Jax polluting this newsgroup, it would actually be a
nice place.

Don't believe me? Google  author:jaxashby@aol.com
and take a look at his posts. Take a look at how he has behaved for years.

Like a SOCIOPATH.

And it's ALL there permanently recorded in usenet. A testimony to Jax's
ignorance and sociopathic behavior.

Jimmy

> Why the flame Jax?  I didn't see where he said he was going to subsist on
> MREs alone.
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>>
>>good, dood.  next week you go to Home Depot.
JAXAshby - 19 Dec 2004 13:40 GMT
because he was lying through his teeth.  One day trying to get by on MRE's
would leave him bloated beyond usefulness.  two days trying would have him
puking over the side in flat water. again, he was lying through his teeth.

>Why the flame Jax?  I didn't see where he said he was going to subsist on
>MREs alone.
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>>
>> good, dood.  next week you go to Home Depot.
lee308@gmail.com - 19 Dec 2004 12:21 GMT
> >Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's.
>
> yeah, sure.  *each* MRE has upwards of 2,200, and *three* are
REQUIRED to meet --minimum-- protein RDA for an adult male.
> dood, MRE's developed for young, physically fit troops humping **heavy** loads
> out in the field for *maybe* two weeks at a stretch.
> So, dood, what have *you* done in the last ten days, physically wise?
> Let us guess. You read two copies of 1930's Mechanix Ilustraded??
> good, dood.  next week you go to Home Depot.

Hmmm, I run 4 miles a day, so last ten day, I ran forty miles.

Not sure of your point, yes each MRE has about 2K clories, a days worth
for non- active adult, so one case supplemented with lobster, knoch,
fish, coconuts, will last 12 days. 8 cases fit w/o a problem, could
carry more but 8x12=96 days, long enough. Each has a chemical heater
and Candy!, toliet paper, condiments, all in a water proof container.
The only problem is they leave trash, most of which is burnable in the
grill. The beer is to trade with the folks that have refrigeration, I'm
bringing 2 Gals of burbon for mixing w/water for me. Home Depot??????
Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
Lee
JAXAshby - 19 Dec 2004 13:46 GMT
lee knock it off. one MRE is NOT hardly an appropriate meal for an adult.  *if*
you run 4 miles a day (and it is most certain that you do not) you --still--
don't burn even 3,000 calories a day (2,800 for the typical male, plus 50 for
each mile).  To choke down a 2,200 calorie MRE gives you only 1/3 (that is ONE
THIRD) of you daily need for protein.  It also only gives you about 1/3 the
required vitamins and minerals.

so, lee dood, knock it off.  you are lying through your teeth.

>Hmmm, I run 4 miles a day, so last ten day, I ran forty miles.
>
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>Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
>Lee
MMC - 19 Dec 2004 13:53 GMT
Lee,
You can either ignore or fight with Jax, there is no in between.
>> >Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's.
>>
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> Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
> Lee
JAXAshby - 19 Dec 2004 14:24 GMT
so wizard brain (why on Earth did you chose "merlin" as your screen identifier
persona??), __you__ would rather lee dood lie to you?

Oh Kay.

>merlinuxo@yagoo.com
>Date: 12/19/2004 8:53 AM Eastern Standard Time
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>> Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
>> Lee
Falky foo - 19 Dec 2004 19:23 GMT
I've chosen to ignore!  The only problem is when other respond.

> Lee,
> You can either ignore or fight with Jax, there is no in between.
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> > Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
> > Lee
JAXAshby - 19 Dec 2004 20:29 GMT
are 98% of the posters here either fumb ducks or obese ducks?

No way in hell does that dood eat MRE's as daily food on his boat.  If he did,
he would be both sick from nutritionals difficiencies (because he can't
possibly eat three of those a day) and he is so fat he can't climb the
companionway stairs.  the dood is lying through his teeth.  you like that
"Falky foo" (what an idgit screen identifier that is), enjoy it, you fool.

>From: "Falky foo" falkyfoo@bonksbcglobal.net
>Date: 12/19/2004 2:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>> > Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
>> > Lee
Lee Haefele - 26 Dec 2004 11:09 GMT
In the Bahamas the best eats are local fresh baked bread, $2/pound cheese
and butter imported from Ireland & New Zealand.  Also fish, but sometimes
you don't get any.  Recommend Wal-Mart "Dolphin Tuna Rig"  lure to tow at
6-7 knots.  Catches tuna & Mahi-Mahi.
You don't need to overstock, you can find big groceries at Nassau, Freeport,
Marsh Harbor, all over Eleuthera, Georgetown . Orange Creek on Cat Island,
north end of Long Island.  Prices are probably 20% over US, except junk
food, which does seem more.
Best fun:  Finding the lady that bakes bread in each small settlement.
Ice is very expensive ($4.50/8# bag), recommend refrigeration.
Beer is expensive @ $2-3/ bottle.
Lee Haefele
>> >Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's.
>>
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> Hmmmmm, they do have some good prices on Blue 10x10 tarps:-)
> Lee
krj - 19 Dec 2004 14:26 GMT
>>$150 Bahamas entry fee, good for one return to florida and re-entry.
>>Returning every 3 months, $300 in entry fees. No ice for cold beer?
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> and nothing else. Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's. Beer, yes, but
> warm.

Water will cost from $0.25 to $0.50 per gallon most places in the
Bahamas, and if you anchor out you will have to jerry can it. Do you
have a row dinghy or will you use an outboard. Gas is alittle more
expensive also.
krj
Lee Haefele - 25 Dec 2004 13:35 GMT
If you look and ask around, MOST wash water can be found for free.  I
require low salt, and buy gallons of water for drinking.  Budget for water
on recent trip: $2, I did Jerry Jug 25 gallons, so take some containers
along.
Lee Haefele
Nauticat 33 Alesto
>>>$150 Bahamas entry fee, good for one return to florida and re-entry.
>>>Returning every 3 months, $300 in entry fees. No ice for cold beer?
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> dinghy or will you use an outboard. Gas is alittle more expensive also.
> krj
Earl Colby Pottinger - 27 Dec 2004 05:15 GMT
"Lee Haefele" <notanaddress@aol.com> :

> If you look and ask around, MOST wash water can be found for free.  I  
> require low salt, and buy gallons of water for drinking.  Budget for water  
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> > dinghy or will you use an outboard. Gas is alittle more expensive also.
> > krj  

Since we are talking about on person and one person only, is a solar still a
possible good source of water him?

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Lee Haefele - 27 Dec 2004 14:43 GMT
THERE IS NO NEED FOR WATERMAKING GEAR IN THE BAHAMAS.
On my recent trip FL-PR,  I topped off the water at Nassau and they charged
me $.10/gal= $2.  I could have carried free water from the streetside
faucett, most rural islands have streetside faucets, if not, there are
friendly local sources: Shopkeepers, hotels, restaurants that have plenty of
well water.  Other than that, I took on free water at Crooked Island.   Free
or very cheap water is easily avail, plus, I would expect a sailboat to have
30-60 gal onboard, 2-8 weeks supply for a single hander.  So, unless you
choose to stay a long time at an island that must make water, due to no
local sources, water is not an issue cost wise.  If you come up short, wash
dishes & body in salt water.  I buy my drinking water at approx  $1.70/gal,
1-2 qts per person/day, after my first stock of Wal-Mart water runs out.
Sometimes I find excellent local water and refill all my drinking jugs for
free.  I have salt sensitive high blood pressure, so I reject a lot of local
water that others do not object to, that may have a small salt content, such
as the Crooked Island water that the locals drink.  There really are no
places in the Bahamas further than 30 miles from free water.  Before taking
on fuel, bargain for water first.  Small sailboats don't have much tankage,
so they stop often for fuel.  ALWAYS: Dump garbage, get fuel & water, ask if
you can keep boat at fuel dock a few hours to tourist or buy groceries.
Usually this all works.
Take a folding bike, there is a lot to see 2-10 miles from anchorages.
Lee Haefele, Nauticat 33 "Alesto", anchored at Salinas, PR.  Prev: Bristol
32 "Niche"  with small tanks.

> Since we are talking about on person and one person only, is a solar still
> a
> possible good source of water him?
>
>              Earl Colby Pottinger
Doug Dotson - 19 Dec 2004 00:33 GMT
> If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
> at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
> would you need?

American money works well :) If you are not planning on eating at
restaurants then food isn't all that expensive. Staples that the locals
use on a regular basis are the same or cheaper than in the US. Coconuts
are free as are grouper and crawfish. Rum is cheap. We baked bread
every other day for next to nothing. Fresh vegies are a bit high, but
worth it.

> assuming you anchored out, never at a marina, returned
> to Florida once every 3/4 months for supplies and had a quite hurricane
> season?

Well, Florida and the Bahamas had "quite" a hurricane season this year.
Ed - 19 Dec 2004 20:50 GMT
If you plan your trips right....
$150 x 2 for customs.  (Plan $60 RT cab ride from the closest anchorage
to US Immigration... anchorages in SFL are rare... otherwise plan 50 a
night minimum for dockage....Free water at most places in the US.... you
better need some real supplies to make it worth the return trip)

Water (cheapest on Freeport and Nassau).  20-55 cents/gallon otherwise
(2-5gal/day if you can do the saltwater-fresh rinse thing)  If you have
a LARGE tank.... it may be cheaper to get a slip in GB or NP...many
docks have unlimited water for a slip fee on those two islands.   In a
pinch, most larger boats would give you 10-20 gallons in jerry jugs if
asked nicely...  (We burn through 40 a day but most large boats have the
ability to make much more than they use)

Garbage dumping... typically $5/bag.

Groceries Similar to US in GB and NP, 1.5 to 2x as you get away from
those islands.  Stay away from the resort grocery stores...(Sampson,
Cat, walkers, etc)  They remind me of a cross between 7-11 and Neiman
Marcus.

Watch the fishing/conching/crawfish laws... they have been enforcing
them lately. (FINALLY...)

GAS -  $3.00 and up /gal (GB and NP again, cheapest-Outer islands $4 ++)

Sailboat parts.... $$$$$$$  and scarce outside of NP and GB....bring all
the standard parts and tools.

As mentioned... Beer is expensive.. Rum is cheap.  Coke is expensive...

Laundramat machines similar to US.

During the Hurricane season, ALWAYS know where you would go once you got
the word... Also have a backup plan... Most of the best Hurricane holes
get REALLY crowded.  Bring LOTS of line and several anchors. Even West
Marine in Fort Lauderdale ran out this year... the tiny stores in the
Bahamas can't supply a fraction of the demand before a hurricane.

Don't forget the Buffett and Marley CDs and the Randy Wayne White Books!!!

Have Fun....

Warm Beer and Bread they say can raise the dead but it reminds me of the
menu at a Holiday Inn...

Ed

>>If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
>>at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
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>
> Well, Florida and the Bahamas had "quite" a hurricane season this year.
Rosalie B. - 19 Dec 2004 22:45 GMT
>If you plan your trips right....
>$150 x 2 for customs.  

That's for Bahamas customs.

>Plan $60 RT cab ride from the closest anchorage
>to US Immigration... anchorages in SFL are rare... otherwise plan 50 a
>night minimum for dockage....

That's for coming back to the US which isn't exactly free, although
if you come into Ft. Pierce the dockage at Harbortown is about $1/ft.

>Free water at most places in the US.... you
>better need some real supplies to make it worth the return trip)
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>a LARGE tank.... it may be cheaper to get a slip in GB or NP...many
>docks have unlimited water for a slip fee on those two islands.  

Be CAREFUL when you do this!!! Nassau dock water is trucked in from
Andros and tastes TERRIBLE (even to me and I always refuse to buy
bottled water on principle).  It makes the tea turn green and makes
terrible coffee.  Tastes like water from a swimming pool-very heavily
chlorinated.  This water is brackish and only good for washing the
boat (if that).  I suspect dock water at some places in Bimini is
similar.

Lucaya isn't so bad - tastes reasonable.  Water in Bimini and
Highborne is RO water and is charged by the gallon.  Highborne was the
most expensive I saw and was 50 cents/gal in 2002.

>In a
>pinch, most larger boats would give you 10-20 gallons in jerry jugs if
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>Cat, walkers, etc)  They remind me of a cross between 7-11 and Neiman
>Marcus.

There's a good grocery store in Nassau across from the Nassau Harbor
Club and Marina in the mall on the east end of Bay Street. It is City
Market, PO Box N3738, Nassau 242-393-6060 which is part of the
Winn-Dixie chain, but which is called a City Market in Nassau.

There is also a Lowes Pharmacy (393-4813), a Bed Bath and Home
(393-4440), an internet cafe/bookstore, a Subway and a Dairy Queen.

Freeport has Winn-Dixie.

The Bahamas Telecommunications Corporation (BaTelCo) has automatic
roaming agreements with some cellular carriers in the United States,
Canada and Mexico. .

>Watch the fishing/conching/crawfish laws... they have been enforcing
>them lately. (FINALLY...)

Lobster or Crawfish: Six tails per person, at any time. Annual closed
season is April 1 to July 31. Minimum size limits are 3-3/8 inch
carapace length or six inches tail length. Egg-bearing female crawfish
are protected.

Conch: Harvesting and possession of conch without a well formed lip is
prohibited. Bag limit at any time is 10 per person.

Wahoo/Dolphin/Kingfish: Six fish per person, any combination.

Vessel Bag Limit: 20 pounds of scalefish, 10 conch and six crawfish
per person may be exported from The Islands Of The Bahamas.

Stone Crabs: Closed season is June 1 to October 15. Minimum
harvestable claw is four inches. Harvesting of females is prohibited.

Turtle: Illegal to import; although legal to eat in The Islands Of The
Bahamas.

Spearfishing: Hawaiian sling is the only approved spearfishing device.
Use of scuba gear or an air compressor to harvest fish, conch,
crawfish and other marine animals is prohibited. Spearfishing is not
allowed within one mile off the coast of New Providence, within one
mile off the south coast of Freeport, Grand Bahama and within 200
yards of the coast of all Out Islands. Spearing or taking marine
animals by any means is prohibited within national sea parks.

>GAS -  $3.00 and up /gal (GB and NP again, cheapest-Outer islands $4 ++)
>
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>>
>> Well, Florida and the Bahamas had "quite" a hurricane season this year.

grandma Rosalie
http://www12.virtualtourist.com/m/4a9c6/
lee308@gmail.com - 19 Dec 2004 23:26 GMT
Thank you Ms. Rosalie, great info. Thats what I was looking for. Water
and fuel will be my big costs.
Regards.
Lee
PS, Sorry if I stired up AJAX whats his name.

> >If you plan your trips right....
> >$150 x 2 for customs.
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> >
> >Groceries Similar to US in GB and NP, 1.5 to 2x as you get away from

> >those islands.  Stay away from the resort grocery stores...(Sampson,

> >Cat, walkers, etc)  They remind me of a cross between 7-11 and Neiman
> >Marcus.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >
> >Watch the fishing/conching/crawfish laws... they have been enforcing

> >them lately. (FINALLY...)
>
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> grandma Rosalie
> http://www12.virtualtourist.com/m/4a9c6/
JAXAshby - 19 Dec 2004 23:34 GMT
>PS, Sorry if I stired up AJAX whats his name.

lee, you stirred me up because you were lying through your teeth re MRE's.  you
were claiming expertise when you ----obviously--- didn't have a frickin' clew.
Johnhh - 19 Dec 2004 23:43 GMT
Jax, here is his original staement.  "Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's."
How is that lying through his teeth?

> >PS, Sorry if I stired up AJAX whats his name.
>
> lee, you stirred me up because you were lying through your teeth re MRE's.
> you
> were claiming expertise when you ----obviously--- didn't have a frickin'
> clew.
JAXAshby - 20 Dec 2004 00:13 GMT
>Jax, here is his original staement.  "Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's."
>How is that lying through his teeth?

How?  because his claim is both that he knows (see the use of his claim of
expertise in the use of the term "obviously") that MRE's are fine food for use
on a sailboat in lieu of other foods, AND that MRE's are nutritious
replacements for other foods.  

Neither statement is true, and yo-yo either know that or he should have known
that to make his statement of expertise.  That makes him someone lying through
his teeth.

In addition, when it was noted that MRE's are specifically designed for young
warriors humping heavy loads in the field for maybe a couple weeks at a time,
yo-yo tells use that *he* is such a person and *he* needs that high calorie
(think hydrogenated fat, check the MRE label if you doubt that) because he
claims he ran 40 miles in the last ten days (nothing before that 40 miles, and
no indication of anything after that, but what the hey).  Nevermind, that
running a total of 40 miles in ten days uses just 2,000 calories more than
breathing, and that 2,000 calories is slightly more than the calories in a cup
of frying oil.  One hell of a long ways from the frying oil, hydrogenated, in
ten days worth of MRE's (30 or more units).  Ten days MRE's (three each day
needed for received the minimum RDA of various vitamins/minerals and proteing)
is over 66,000 calories.  Six six zero zero zero zero zero calories.  That is
more than 38,000 calories MORE THAN NEEDED by an adult male.

The frickin' idgit had never in his life eaten 30 MRE's total, let alone in ten
days.

There are newbe's on this ng.  some newbe might be unlucky enough to believe
the clown.
Johnhh - 20 Dec 2004 00:32 GMT
Remarkable! Absolutely remarkable!  All that from the loose use of the term
"obviously."  Jax, your deductive powers are beyond compare.  I am clearly
no match for your brilliance so I will attempt to stay out any future
debates with you.

> >Jax, here is his original staement.  "Obviously I'll have alot of MRE's."
>>How is that lying through his teeth?
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> believe
> the clown.
JAXAshby - 20 Dec 2004 00:53 GMT
if you found that brilliant, you are going to find brilliant nearly everyone
you come in contact with.  He used the words and presumably he intended to use
the words.  His pretentiousness in his claim to expertise was clear.

keep up, forrest.

>From: "Johnhh" john@NS.harcharik.com
>Date: 12/19/2004 7:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
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>> believe
>> the clown.
Mike - 20 Dec 2004 01:07 GMT
Speaking of PRETENTIOUS...

> if you found that brilliant, you are going to find brilliant nearly everyone
> you come in contact with.  He used the words and presumably he intended to use
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
>>>believe
>>>the clown.
Johnhh - 20 Dec 2004 01:32 GMT
>you are going to find brilliant nearly everyone
> you come in contact with.

Oh I do. The wisdom and intelligence of my fellow man never ceases to amaze
me.

Now already I have brooken my promiss to stay out of this.  I must be
really, really bored.  I think it's the lack of sunshile here in the
Northwest this time of year.  I'll have to call my analyst in the morning
and see if I can get my meds changed or the dose increased.

> if you found that brilliant, you are going to find brilliant nearly
> everyone
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>>> believe
>>> the clown.
JAXAshby - 20 Dec 2004 01:47 GMT
>>you are going to find brilliant nearly everyone
>> you come in contact with.
>
>Oh I do. The wisdom and intelligence of my fellow man never ceases to amaze
>me.

see, johnnyhaha, you really are easily impressed.  too bad those fumb ducks dog
pile, junnies and the two doogles don't have your nearly three digit
intelligence.
Rodney Myrvaagnes - 20 Dec 2004 04:42 GMT
>Remarkable! Absolutely remarkable!  All that from the loose use of the term
>"obviously."  Jax, your deductive powers are beyond compare.  I am clearly
>no match for your brilliance so I will attempt to stay out any future
>debates with you.

I have no problem filtering out a person whose posts don't interest
me. The difficulty with JAX is thus not JAX, but those who answer him
off-topic without warning in the subject. I can't filter those without
filtering everyone who ever answers him.

I am getting deparate enough that I may do that.

Rodney Myrvaagnes          NYC

Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas
Rosalie B. - 20 Dec 2004 01:54 GMT
>Thank you Ms. Rosalie, great info. Thats what I was looking for. Water
>and fuel will be my big costs.

You need to give Ed most of the credit.  Most of the information was
his - I just piggybacked.

You will have both Bahamas and US customs costs, but they will be
different.  Both will require that you come in to a dock - except as I
said for Andros.

I personally would not want to live like that, and if I did, I'd
rather just stay in the US.  You can go down on the west side of the
Florida Keys and find plenty of nice places to anchor.  

>Regards.
>Lee
>PS, Sorry if I stired up AJAX whats his name.

I just know not to read any farther in a thread that has more than
about 25 responses with most of them between Jax and some other person

>> >If you plan your trips right....
>> >$150 x 2 for customs.
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>> grandma Rosalie
>> http://www12.virtualtourist.com/m/4a9c6/

grandma Rosalie
Rosalie B. - 19 Dec 2004 22:18 GMT
>If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
>at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
>would you need? assuming you anchored out, never at a marina, returned
>to Florida once every 3/4 months for supplies and had a quite hurricane
>season?

I think most places except Morgan's Bluff you have to come in to a
dock (and pay to do so) in order to check in.  You also have to pay
for water, even if you do not need to pay for fuel.  Part of the entry
fee includes a fishing license, but there are limitations on what you
can catch and the methods you can use.

grandma Rosalie
Lee Haefele - 25 Dec 2004 13:30 GMT
I did not need to pay at Lucaya/Freeport this year, and on return last
spring anchored at Lake Worth.  They seem happy with that now that a
personal visit to Immigration is req'd.
Lee Haefele
Nauticat 33 Alesto

>>If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
>>at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
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> grandma Rosalie
Rosalie B. - 25 Dec 2004 16:23 GMT
>I did not need to pay at Lucaya/Freeport this year, and on return last
>spring anchored at Lake Worth.  They seem happy with that now that a
>personal visit to Immigration is req'd.
>Lee Haefele
>Nauticat 33 Alesto

Well I hate the idea of anchoring at Lake Worth.  

Lucaya has 24 hour onsite customs officials, but I think you have to
pay at Old Bahama Bay, and since the hurricane they are allowing only
limited overnight docking.  I know they require money for being at the
dock at Chub and at Cat Cay.  I'm not sure about Nassau, but I think a
dock might be required there.

>>>If you where headed there for a year and did not plan to buy one meal
>>>at a resturant or bar, 26ft sailboat, shallow draft, what kind of money
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>> grandma Rosalie

grandma Rosalie
Lee Haefele - 26 Dec 2004 10:40 GMT
In Freeport/Lucaya, Just tie up at the fuel dock or next, it is free for
customs,  I was there Dec 1,2004. They were just finishing hurricane
repairs.  Old Bahama Bay has reduced rate if you do not stay night,
something like $15.  Most will forgive fee if you buy fuel and are there
only the 1 hour needed to visit customs.
Lee Haefele

>>I did not need to pay at Lucaya/Freeport this year, and on return last
>>spring anchored at Lake Worth.  They seem happy with that now that a
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> grandma Rosalie
Rosalie B. - 26 Dec 2004 14:33 GMT
>In Freeport/Lucaya, Just tie up at the fuel dock or next, it is free for
>customs,  I was there Dec 1,2004.

Yes that is what I meant when I said they had 24 hour customs - that
you could tie up at the fuel dock and do customs without charge.
Sorry I wasn't clear.

I do want to say that I do NOT think you should be referring to
Freeport/Lucaya.  It's Lucaya.  Freeport is a different harbour
altogether, and is NOT a place for little boats to be.  

>They were just finishing hurricane
>repairs.  Old Bahama Bay has reduced rate if you do not stay night,
>something like $15.  Most will forgive fee if you buy fuel and are there
>only the 1 hour needed to visit customs.
>Lee Haefele

Glad to hear that they are doing OK with the repairs.

>>>I did not need to pay at Lucaya/Freeport this year, and on return last
>>>spring anchored at Lake Worth.  They seem happy with that now that a
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>> grandma Rosalie

grandma Rosalie
 
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