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Boat Forum / Cruising / May 2005When you move the site let me know
Shame it's turning into another alt.sailing.asa. When you move the site and get back to interesting subjects relating to boats let me know. M. > Shame it's turning into another alt.sailing.asa. When you move the site and > get back to interesting subjects relating to boats let me know. > > M. Why can't you just read the messages you want and delete the rest undread? The only place this or any newsgroup can be ruined is in the minds of the participants. As long as boaters continue to post boating messages, no one can "ruin the newsgroup."  SignatureStephen ------- For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will leave no true statement whatsoever. -- Imre Lakatos >> Shame it's turning into another alt.sailing.asa. When you move the site >> and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > participants. As long as boaters continue to post boating messages, no one > can "ruin the newsgroup." And, it's pretty easy to filter out what you don't want to read, so you don't have to read it in the first place. Too bad not enough people do that instead. We've all been guilty of it, but all it takes is some self-restraint. Signature"j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!! > I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the > message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". > This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, > the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!! Add NFILTER to that to kill all crossposts. Then it starts to look like it used to. Thunderbird should have this capability, but for some reason they have it disabled. >I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the >message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". >This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, >the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!! Indeed. I really appreciate Agent for reading text type news, so I have been forced to invoke other filtering software, but it *IS* possible to eliminate the unwanted and unwarranted chatter. Signature************************************************* 23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC. See where Southport, North Carolina is: http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Real Time Picture of Marina "B" Dock,"A" Dock, and ICW: http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm And courtesy of Lee Yeaton: see the boats of rec.boats at: www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats >>I use Thunderbird to read newsgroups. I added a filter to delete the >>message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >have been forced to invoke other filtering software, but it *IS* >possible to eliminate the unwanted and unwarranted chatter. 29 articles. 21 killed. On 26 May 2005, Cindy wrote: >I added a filter to delete the >message and kill the thread if a sender contains the word "Remailer". You kill the whole thread?? There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread. >This morning there were 111 headers in r.b.c. When I selected the group, >the number dropped down to 18 - all real content!!! But in some cases you'e throwing the baby out with the bath water. Filters can be overdone. Me, I killfilter messages of known trolls too, but as for threads, I filter only the ones that trolls initiate. That helps a lot. The Delete key is your friend. So is the manual "Ignore" button. Rick > You kill the whole thread?? > There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's > gonna be tempted to reply here... and he won't even have to say > anything, just click the Reply button to kill your thread. My experience is that there are so many people who (for what ever reason) just can't NOT reply to a troll that the threads are unreadable anyway. Of course, this seems to depend on the troll. Jax will create a few flames so I just killfile him and ignore the noise. Neal triggers so much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here. > But in some cases you'e throwing the baby out with the bath water. > Filters can be overdone. > > Me, I killfilter messages of known trolls too, but as for threads, I > filter only the ones that trolls initiate. That helps a lot. I know I lose some good content. If I had the time, I'd set up a more sophisticated news reader with better filtration. Right now, sifting through the chafe to find a few grains of wheat isn't worth the effort. I can still find specific content with Google if I need it. It makes me really sad that this situation exists. 80% of my email is spam. My favorite newsgroups are flooded with trolls. The best mailing list I've ever been on has been shut down by the owner's isp because they think it's spam. The web is still useful, but the rest of the internet's going to hell. Time to shut off the computer and go sailing. SignatureThe email address above is a spam trap. Don't expect a response. Reach me using firstname at lastname dot net >> You kill the whole thread?? >> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Time to shut off the computer and go sailing. No need for sadness. I've been on a variety of newsgroups for a decade or so, never once used a filter and never once been bothered by spammers or trolls. It takes me about thirty seconds to scroll down through all the subject headers. If I see a subject and author that looks interesting, I read the entire message. Once I get to the end of the subject lines I go up to the "Message" menu pick "Mark as read" and then all the sh.t messages are marked as if I read them, never to bother me again. Maybe you all need better newsreader software? SignatureStephen ------- For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will leave no true statement whatsoever. -- Imre Lakatos >thirty seconds to scroll down through all >the subject headers. If I see a subject and author that looks >interesting, I read the entire message. Once I get to the end of the >subject lines I go up to the "Message" menu pick "Mark as read" Similar here except I mark the uninteresting and hijacked threads "Ignore". Saves the time of skipping them again on future header downloads. >Maybe you all need better newsreader software? Define "better". I've tried quite a few (including T'bird) and haven't found anything faster, more stable, less bloated, more configurable, etc than Agent for non-binary newsgroups. Granted, it has a longer/taller learning curve than most. Rick >>thirty seconds to scroll down through all >>the subject headers. If I see a subject and author that looks [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > configurable, etc than Agent for non-binary newsgroups. Granted, it > has a longer/taller learning curve than most. Well, those whose software makes Usenet easy, even with the inevitable trolls and spam don't need better software. Sounds like you're in that boat! SignatureStephen ------- For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will leave no true statement whatsoever. -- Imre Lakatos >80% of my email is >spam. www.digiportal.com. I haven't had any in the last year. >My favorite newsgroups are flooded with trolls. www.nfilter.org >> You kill the whole thread?? >> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with > these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here. Poor, poor little Cindy. It's plain she is anal retentive and sexually unfulfilled. CN >> You kill the whole thread?? >> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >much disruption that it poisons the thread. It's the same deal with with >these anon-remailer-crosspost folks. They rarely start threads here. No, we don't start threads. We do reply to off topic posters and not kindly. Crossposting occurs when a regular poster to this group turns into Mr. Hyde and dishes out a ration of BS in rec.boats. Do you realize there are far more recreational boaters than cruisers? We are the ones that own the 14' aluminum fishing boats. Why do we have to be punished by OT posters from this group? Just because you own a 30 foot sailboat you can look down your noses at us? Ever think about policing your own? The crossposting would stop. Ever bother to read the trash Don White posts to rec.boats? Naw, you wouldn't go there because he and his pals have made an unholy mess of it. Unfortunately, us mere recreational boaters have to put up with him and his ilk. Why? Why can't he be a gentleman in rec.boats as he pretends to be here? Trotline -=- This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services. >>> You kill the whole thread?? >>> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Trotline Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! rusty redcloud > Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! > > rusty redcloud Much preferable to having Jonathan's dick in your a.s, rusty. CN >> Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >CN I guess you'd be the one to make that call! Please keep your disgusting sex life to yourself and your cat. rusty redcloud I thought you said you *loved* the way my dick felt up your a.s rusty. You'd better apologize or I'll report you to your news server and get you thrown off. SignatureJonathan E. Ganz - Netcop Nazi www.sailnot.com >>> Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > rusty redcloud >>>> You kill the whole thread?? >>>> There's gotta be a better way. When a troll see this, you know he's [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >rusty redcloud Why don't you just come over to rec.boats and find out firsthand? Coward? Afraid to see your Don White in action? Harold >>Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Harold Are you on crack? I've been a regular in rec.boats for years. I've filtered out most of the noisemakers, regardless of thier political leanings. People who constantly piss and moan about others get evaporated. Sometimes, I'll set the filter to expire after a penalty period. If the dope is still misbeaving, they get the permanent royal flush. rusty redcloud >>>Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > rusty redcloud Dope? Bwwwaahahhahahhahahahahh! There you go again Bobsprit. Robert Brody is the only fool using the word "dope" in this day and age. Do you enjoy being Mr. Mom? How's the little crumb snatcher? CN >>>>Boy... Somebody has a pretty big chip on their shoulder! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >CN Just when I was convinced that Joe was slightly less intelligent than you... My kids are grown. I understand that you were never enough of a man to actually reproduce. I guess that would have been hard to do jerking off to pictures in magazines. At least that avoided another yellow stain in the gene pool. rusty redcloud |
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