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Cost of Diesel in USA

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Peter Hendra - 27 May 2005 00:13 GMT
Would someone please give me an idea of the cost to boatees of diesel
fuel in either US gallons or litres?

It would be great if someone could also give me an idea of the same in
the Caribbean - I realise that it must vary from place to place.

Also, what is the current cost of petrol for cars. When I was there
last, about 8 years ago, it seemed incredibly cheap.

When we built our sailboat we never realised just how much time we
would have to spend motoring due to lack of a decent wind - in South
East Asia and the Mediterranean in particular. In New Zealand, we get
good sailing breezes of 10 to 30 knots much of the time.

Thanks,
Peter Hendra
NZ yacht Herodotus
Lew Hodgett - 27 May 2005 01:50 GMT
> Would someone please give me an idea of the cost to boatees of diesel
> fuel in either US gallons or litres?
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> Also, what is the current cost of petrol for cars. When I was there
> last, about 8 years ago, it seemed incredibly cheap.

About 40%-50% of prices in Europe.

Presently, prices are very high by US standards, about $2.30/US gallon
here in Southern California for land based purchases of either this
week. Last week it was $2.40. Add 15%-30% for marina pricing.

HTH

Lew
John Cairns - 27 May 2005 01:57 GMT
>> Would someone please give me an idea of the cost to boatees of diesel
>> fuel in either US gallons or litres?
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>
> Lew

You should have added, California prices are at least $.30 more than the
rest of the country.

John Cairns
dbohara@mindspring.com - 27 May 2005 03:11 GMT
In Florida, boat diesel was $2.04/gal.  Today, I paid $2.07/gal for gas
for my truck.
Larry W4CSC - 27 May 2005 14:04 GMT
> In Florida, boat diesel was $2.04/gal.  Today, I paid $2.07/gal for gas
> for my truck.

Diesel at the marina - $2.48
Diesel at the truckstop - $2.12
Gas at the marina - $2.29
Gas at the stations - $1.92

Gas taxes (SC + Federal at the stations)- $.343 but we're looking hungrily
at increasing it by 7c so we can steal more from the people....

Diesel taxes (SC + Fed at stations) - $.393 same increase coming soon....
Gas tax at marinas, even though your boat won't go down the interstate, is
the same as gas tax at the stations.  Diesel fuel at the marina is $0....so
why does diesel cost so MUCH MORE at the marina with 40c less tax on it??

Greed....
Peter Bennett - 28 May 2005 03:03 GMT
>Diesel taxes (SC + Fed at stations) - $.393 same increase coming soon....
>Gas tax at marinas, even though your boat won't go down the interstate, is
>the same as gas tax at the stations.  Diesel fuel at the marina is $0....so
>why does diesel cost so MUCH MORE at the marina with 40c less tax on it??
>
>Greed....

One local marine fuel dock claims that if they were a land gas
station, the fuel company would shut them down because they don't sell
enough fuel - they certainly don't sell enough to get any sort of
"quantity discount".

That station mainly serves pleasure craft - a big sale may be 100
gallons, a typical sailboat will buy 10 gallons - if I go into
Vancouver Harbour, I can get diesel for 20 cents/litre less, at a fuel
barge that serves the harbour tugs and other large consumers.  Last
time I was there, a tug had just taken on 7,000 gallons! (the barge
may sell that sort of quantity several times a day!)

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Larry W4CSC - 28 May 2005 04:42 GMT
> One local marine fuel dock claims that if they were a land gas
> station, the fuel company would shut them down because they don't sell
> enough fuel - they certainly don't sell enough to get any sort of
> "quantity discount".

That might be true in Daytona Beach with no access to the ocean, where the
pumps are just gas station pumps at the fuel docks.  It's not true in port
cities, like Charleston, where the diesel guzzling fiberglass monsters take
aboard fuel hoses that look like fire hoses to fill those 3000 gallon tanks
to feed the beasts.  There's no dollar meter on the big pumps because the
wheels would spin right off the shaft...(c;  The gallon meters sure screw
up breathtakingly....

This week is Spoleto Festival in Charleston.  The super cruisers will all
be here for a couple of weeks.  The fuel tractor-tankers will be going to
the docks a "few times a day" as they're sucked dry.

The fuel docks will make a substantial profit at these prices......
Gogarty - 27 May 2005 13:40 GMT
>>> Would someone please give me an idea of the cost to boatees of diesel
>>> fuel in either US gallons or litres?
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>You should have added, California prices are at least $.30 more than the
>rest of the country.

Not New York. Diesel at the marina dock is >$2.75. At a land based filling
station, >$2.55 (our car is a diesel).  Cheapest diesel we have seen was $2.10
on the New Jersey Turnpike.
Peter Hendra - 27 May 2005 07:47 GMT
Thanks for this Lew,
By the way, are you the Lew who was "building in the heartland" on
Yacht-L or somesuch list a few years ago?

Peter Hendra

>> Would someone please give me an idea of the cost to boatees of diesel
>> fuel in either US gallons or litres?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Lew
Lew Hodgett - 27 May 2005 18:11 GMT
> Thanks for this Lew,
> By the way, are you the Lew who was "building in the heartland" on
> Yacht-L or somesuch list a few years ago?

Yep and I'm still on Yacht-L.

How about you?

Lew
Peter Hendra - 28 May 2005 00:07 GMT
No, I signed off when we left Sydney over 5 years ago. We have been
sailing ever since and have only been able to use web mail. I have
forgotten how I got onto it. It would be appreciated if you would
email me to refresh my memory. It was very good; no spam, no cross
posting and messages from God, no Russian porn.

By the way, how is the boat building project. I don't think I would
have the courage to take any longer than the three years it took me to
build ours. That was long enough and I got sick of being poor.

At the end of this year I hope to sail across from Spain to the US. I
have travelled between Boston and New York and can't wait to sail
there.

regards,
Peter Hendra,
NZ yacht Herodotus

>> Thanks for this Lew,
>> By the way, are you the Lew who was "building in the heartland" on
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>
>Lew
 
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