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Boat Forum / Cruising / July 2005List of proven off shore cruisers?
Hi, Does anyone have a link to a list of proven off shore cruisers? Maybe boats from the 60's to now. Lengths 25 feet and up? Thanks, Peter Perhaps I should add that the list I'm thinking of would be boats that are likely available on the second hand or new market. > Perhaps I should add that the list I'm thinking of would be boats that > are likely available on the second hand or new market. What are the _other_ markets?  SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http:\\home.comcast.net/kerrydeare > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > Peter Almost any well built boat can be used as an "off shore cruiser." Its the skipper and crew that must be "proven." As examples, the three larger (i.e. not dinghies or trailer boats) that I've owned would not be considered "off shore" by most standards. One has a good traditional design, but is small, at 24 feet. My Nonsuch had a large cockpit, poor rollover numbers, and limited sail options. My catamaran is light and has limited load capabilities. However, sisterships of all three have done Atlantic crossings. I remember watching someone fit out a Rhodes 18 and asking why his rigging was so over-sized. A year later he took it across the Atlantic. Another time I was chatting with someone who had a small IOR race boat, half ton I think, and he mentioned that he had taken one just like it across the Pacific. Right, I thought to myself. Later I found out he was a famous cruiser with a number of Pacific crossings under his keel. The bottom line is that when you're ready to consider off shore cruising, you'll know what type of boat is the best for you. I just asked so I'd have a starting point to do some reading about pros and cons of the designs and what features people like. Then I'll have an idea about what people are comparing. Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? >I just asked so I'd have a starting point to do some reading about pros > and cons of the designs and what features people like. Then I'll have > an idea about what people are comparing. > > Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? You might want to consider speaking with a knowledgeable broker.. someone who actually sails offshore. There are a few of them around. Of course, they will have an agenda (to sell you a boat), but as long as you know that, you can make some progress. A good broker will give you good advice and look all over the US or world for the boat that fits your needs (after they've been identified). If you're not quite ready to buy, you should be upfront about that. Signature"j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com http://cruisenews.net/db/boattypes.php > I just asked so I'd have a starting point to do some reading about pros > and cons of the designs and what features people like. Then I'll have > an idea about what people are comparing. > > Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? >http://cruisenews.net/db/boattypes.php > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? This is a long fairly inclusive list http://www.mahina.com/boats.html This one is about general principles http://www.yachtsurvey.com/usedboats.htm This is another long list which purports to be a scientific evaluation http://www.johnsboatstuff.com/Articles/best.htm And this is a discussion http://www.geocities.com/bill_dietrich/ChoosingBoatModels.html grandma Rosalie >I just asked so I'd have a starting point to do some reading about pros >and cons of the designs and what features people like. Then I'll have >an idea about what people are comparing. > >Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? "Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of the Offshore Yachts" by Davis and Rousmaniere is a fairly good book, though a bit dated, especially if you're into the modern higher tech "fast cruisers". I really liked "Ted Brewer Explains Sailboat Design" by Brewer (obviously) but it's long out of print. ' ____________________________________________________________ Glen "Wiley" Wilson <usenet1 SPAMNIX at world wide wiley dot com> To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious. Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/ > I just asked so I'd have a starting point to do some reading about pros > and cons of the designs and what features people like. Then I'll have > an idea about what people are comparing. > > Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? Instead of looking at lists of boats I would suggest reading books by offshore cruisers about their cruising experiences, including books about people's experiences in storms. After reading about the issues that cruisers deal with on a daily basis, and those they face during storm conditions, you will start to get a feel for what to look for in a boat. Andy > I just asked so I'd have a starting point to do some reading about pros > and cons of the designs and what features people like. Then I'll have > an idea about what people are comparing. > > Anyone else have suggestions about where I could look? I'd suggest "Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts" by Stephen Davis and John Rousmaniere (Ed). It was written in the aftermath of the Fastnet disaster as a "lessons learned." And John Vigor's "Seaworthy Offshore Sailboat." >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks, >Peter I know of a Cal 20 that did the Atlantic. I suggest you put "Cruising in the Seraffyn" by Lin and Larry Parley to the top of your reading list. Great info for small cruisers. Clark >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > I know of a Cal 20 that did the Atlantic. >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks, >Peter There is no such list. Almost any boat could be considered an offshore cruiser if fitted out properly. People have crossed the Atlantic in sub-twelve foot boats. You are better off if you don't start out with a total crapper like a Coronado, or similar. A friend of mine circumnavigated a couple of years ago in an old Pacific Seacraft Orion 27. In general, the boat is usually tougher and more seaworthy than the captain and crew. http://www.otternews.com/ rusty redcloud >>Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >rusty redcloud Actually if you give us a budget you might get some suggestions. >>>Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Actually if you give us a budget you might get some suggestions. ??? I'm not the one asking the question. rusty redcloud >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks, >Peter You could look here: http://cruisenews.net/index.php or here: http://www.mahina.com/cruise.html Scroll down the page or click the "Boats to Consider for Offshore Cruising" page jump link. Mark E. Williams An easier way is to follow those designers of specif-built 'blue water' boats: Perry, Harris, Creighlock, Peterson, etc. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > Peter |
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