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AC-->DC converter for setting up a home "boat"

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Meach - 19 Oct 2005 14:40 GMT
I am trying to find an AC->DC converter so I can turn my enclosed porch
into a "boat".  I would like to run some marine cabin lights, a VHF,
and eventually a SSB radio.  Has anyone done this and can recommend a
particular converter?

Thanks.
Harry Krause - 19 Oct 2005 14:53 GMT
> I am trying to find an AC->DC converter so I can turn my enclosed porch
> into a "boat".  I would like to run some marine cabin lights, a VHF,
> and eventually a SSB radio.  Has anyone done this and can recommend a
> particular converter?
>
> Thanks.

You're not supposed to transmit on the VHF marine band while you're
ashore. There are exceptions, but an enclosed porch "boat" isn't one of
them.

I use a pretty decent Radio Shack converter to test out my boat stuff.
It's got a pair of terminals plus a plug in.
Meach - 19 Oct 2005 16:25 GMT
I realize this about transmitting, same holds for a SSB on Marine
channels.  Doesn't mean I can't listen however :)

Just curious, do you know the model number of the Radio Shack converter
you used?
Doug Dotson - 19 Oct 2005 16:55 GMT
Just go in an ask for a 12 volt power supply. Tell them what you are trying
to
do. Incidently, the power supplies they have at a cost you will probably
like won't allow you to transmit on SSB except at very low power. By the
time you turn on a few "boat lights" and both radios, you may not be able to
transmit on VHF either. But, as you said earlier, you don;t need to
transmit.

Doug

>I realize this about transmitting, same holds for a SSB on Marine
> channels.  Doesn't mean I can't listen however :)
>
> Just curious, do you know the model number of the Radio Shack converter
> you used?
Harry Krause - 19 Oct 2005 20:18 GMT
> I realize this about transmitting, same holds for a SSB on Marine
> channels.  Doesn't mean I can't listen however :)
>
> Just curious, do you know the model number of the Radio Shack converter
> you used?

Mine is several years old. This looks like a newer version of what I have:

http://tinyurl.com/9hwgo
Robert or Karen Swarts - 19 Oct 2005 15:50 GMT
You could also use a 12 volt battery with a trickle charger attached.

BS

> I am trying to find an AC->DC converter so I can turn my enclosed porch
> into a "boat".  I would like to run some marine cabin lights, a VHF,
> and eventually a SSB radio.  Has anyone done this and can recommend a
> particular converter?
>
> Thanks.
Gordon Wedman - 19 Oct 2005 17:58 GMT
Yes, that would give enough amps to allow transmitting if he wanted to test
that function.

> You could also use a 12 volt battery with a trickle charger attached.
>
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>>
>> Thanks.
Bruce  in Alaska - 19 Oct 2005 21:52 GMT
> I am trying to find an AC->DC converter so I can turn my enclosed porch
> into a "boat".  I would like to run some marine cabin lights, a VHF,
> and eventually a SSB radio.  Has anyone done this and can recommend a
> particular converter?
>
> Thanks.

Numar makes some of the best Rgulated Powersupplies in the Marine
Industry.

Bruce in alaska
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Dennis Pogson - 20 Oct 2005 09:28 GMT
> I am trying to find an AC->DC converter so I can turn my enclosed
> porch into a "boat".  I would like to run some marine cabin lights, a
> VHF, and eventually a SSB radio.  Has anyone done this and can
> recommend a particular converter?
>
> Thanks.

These porches do not sail well, and tend to sink unexpectedly. I would
strongly advise you to go to a broker and look at his list of boats.

Dennis.
Meach - 20 Oct 2005 17:30 GMT
Upwind I agree with you, but down wind, porches actually can plane and
exceed hull speed.
john@finninday.net - 21 Oct 2005 04:23 GMT
A great way to try out the system and be more nautical: Power it using
a battery, then drive your car up to it for an hour a day to recharge
the battery. Maybe augment the charging system with a solar panel or
windmill tied to an alternator.
   Just a question, why are you doing this?
Meach - 21 Oct 2005 13:54 GMT
The main reason I am doing this is because I don't have a boat right
now and want to mess around with some boat electronics and just to make
one part of my home more nautical.

I would like to add some solar/wind augmentation and perhaps do a
battery.  However the porch is on the second floor so charging daily is
a pain.  I guess I could have a battery and a converter and a switch
which controls where the power comes from.

That way I could store up solar/wind power use it, then switch to house
ac and charge the battery again regarless of how long it takes.
Bruce  in Alaska - 21 Oct 2005 20:21 GMT
> The main reason I am doing this is because I don't have a boat right
> now and want to mess around with some boat electronics and just to make
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> That way I could store up solar/wind power use it, then switch to house
> ac and charge the battery again regarless of how long it takes.

Apply for a Maritime Mobile Support Station License and you'll be
covered for all your intended uses.........

Bruce in alaska     haven't applied for one of these in a few years....
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john@finninday.net - 22 Oct 2005 05:50 GMT
The battery option sounds great. If you could incorporate the ability
to measure the amount a current going out and into the battery it would
be good. It was surprising for me to find how they work under different
charging regimes. Having shore power readily available, even once a
week, is very different then charging with the motor, generator solar
etc. Lighting uses a surprising amount of power and the new VHFs use
very little
John
Doug Dotson - 23 Oct 2005 21:36 GMT
Amps are amps. A solar panel isn;t going to charge as quickly as a
40 amp shorepower charger.

> The battery option sounds great. If you could incorporate the ability
> to measure the amount a current going out and into the battery it would
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> very little
> John
Meach - 24 Oct 2005 02:00 GMT
What kind of amphere are normal to expect from a solar panel setup, vs.
a wind vane, vs. a hydrolic driven generator?
Jim Richardson - 24 Oct 2005 03:05 GMT
> What kind of amphere are normal to expect from a solar panel setup, vs.
> a wind vane, vs. a hydrolic driven generator?

That would depend entirely on the system in question :) Not enough info
in the question to go by.

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Jim Richardson - 24 Oct 2005 03:05 GMT
> Amps are amps. A solar panel isn;t going to charge as quickly as a
> 40 amp shorepower charger.
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>> very little
>> John

Perhaps he was refering more to the charging rate over time. 40A is
fine, if it's at about C10 or so for std automotive type lead acid. If
it's significantly higher than C10 (and it probably is) then much of
that 40A goes into heating the electrolyte, rather than charging the
battery.

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Earl Colby Pottinger - 28 Oct 2005 19:03 GMT
"Meach" <dimitri.vlachos@gmail.com> :

> The main reason I am doing this is because I don't have a boat right
> now and want to mess around with some boat electronics and just to make
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> That way I could store up solar/wind power use it, then switch to house
> ac and charge the battery again regarless of how long it takes.

How attached is the porch to the house?  After all some extra attachment
hardware, a couple of jacks and two large pontoons and you get the best of
both worlds.

               Earl Colby Pottinger

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