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Boat Forum / Cruising / November 2005Should I buy a Tayana, Beneteau, Hunter or something else ?
First I wanted to buy a Tayana Vancouver 460 because I like the pilothouse design. Then I went to look at some Beneteaus with cast iron keels and this made me worry about Tayana's fiberglass keel getting damaged if I go island hopping in the South Pacific or sail to my Lanta Island property. Then today I talked to a Hunter salesman and he said that lead keels are the best because they can absorb energy if I hit something and are easier to repair than fiberglass. If you were in my position would you just go ahead and get a Tayana and not worry too much about the keel ? I need to have 3 sleeping cabins and would like a boat that can be set up for singlehanded sailing. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Naw, I'd get the Macgregor 26. > First I wanted to buy a Tayana Vancouver 460 because I like > the pilothouse design. Then I went to look at some Beneteaus [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Thanks in advance for your suggestions. > Naw, I'd get the Macgregor 26. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Talk to Jim, if he gets back alive.  Signature"j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. G >> Naw, I'd get the Macgregor 26. >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Talk to Jim, if he gets back alive. > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. > G [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Talk to Jim, if he gets back alive. Which one? Signature"j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com > > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. > > Which one? The Island. >> > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. >> >> Which one? > >The Island. The Island 310 with 4'4" draft is nice but too small for me. I would like to have 3 staterooms and 2 heads or at least 2 staterooms plus a work room or utility room for my cat's litter boxes. What do you think about the Morgan 440 with 4'11" draft ? http://www.catalinayachts.com/yachts.cfm?act=model&id=74 A salesperson in Marina del Ray just told me that the new Hunters (2000 or newer) are also very well built and good for ocean crossing but they still don't have a good name because the earlier models were not that good. > >> > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > I would like to have at least 2 heads At least then someone will talk to you. SV >> >> > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > SV Now that's funny! Signature"j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com >"Scotty" <Scotty@Seidelmann.com> wrote in message >>> >> > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Now that's funny! Except that I was slightly misquoted. I said "I would like to have 3 staterooms and 2 heads..." > >"Scotty" <Scotty@Seidelmann.com> wrote in message > >>> >> > Skip all of them. Get a Catalina. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Except that I was slightly misquoted. I said > "I would like to have 3 heads..." Ahhh, better yet, someone to listen to your BS as well. SV > First I wanted to buy a Tayana Vancouver 460 because I like > the pilothouse design. Then I went to look at some Beneteaus [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > have 3 sleeping cabins and would like a boat that can be set > up for singlehanded sailing. Before you spend a nickel on boats or tropical islands, check to see if your medical insurance already includes psychiatric. Good luck, buddo, 'cause you're sure gonna need it. SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare >Before you spend a nickel on boats or tropical islands, >check to see if your medical insurance already includes >psychiatric. > >Good luck, buddo, 'cause you're sure gonna need it. I've already spent more than $300,000 on my island property and will be sailing there with a clinical psychologist :-) Armond, you took the 'troll' hook line and sinker. > > First I wanted to buy a Tayana Vancouver 460 because I like > > the pilothouse design. Then I went to look at some Beneteaus [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Good luck, buddo, 'cause you're sure gonna need it. :> Armond Perretta <newsgroupreader@REMOVEcomcast.net> wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Armond, you took the 'troll' hook line and sinker. As I get on in years I find that anything's possible. But before you request a competency exam on me, Rich, you may want to re-read my post once more. Take care. SignatureGood luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare >Thanks in advance for your suggestions. You should solicit more opinions before you buy, as Tayanas, Beneteaus and Hunters are pretty close to opposite spectrums of the cruising experience. Keels have little to do with that. However, rule out Hunters. They are fine for coastal and lake work, but are geared way more to the dock-bound, floating condo, take it out in 10-15 knots crowd. Beneteaus are variable in suitability depending on model, age and purpose of voyage. Some good, others no. Not my first choice personally for ocean work, however. Tayanas are proper cruisers, but old-fashioned and heavy. Probably the best choice in your odd list, but that depends very much on age, condition, etc. Those are all very broad generalizations, but I will say that if you expect to pick a boat based on a salesman's spiel, you've got other issues than the composition of your keel. R. >Tayanas are proper cruisers, but old-fashioned and heavy. >Probably the best choice in your odd list, but that depends >very much on age, condition, etc. Thank you very much rhys. The Tayana I like is the Vancouver 460 Pilot. Should I be concerned about this boat's higher center of gravity or low ballast/displacement ratio of 0.238 or do you think this isn't a problem since the ballast is at the bottom of the keel ? They've only built 7 of them starting in 2001 so the age shouldn't be a problem. Or maybe I should buy a new one since the asking price for a new one is $36,500 less than the asking price for hull #1. I think other Tayana models with 3 staterooms are larger and more expensive unless they're more than 10 years old. |
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