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Roger Long - 23 Feb 2006 21:54 GMT
Some of you, presumably without PDA’s or calendars, requested a
reminder about the Titanic show closer to air time. Here it is:

Sunday, February 26, 9:00 PM EST, History Channel. I will be on a live
call in Internet chat for the hour following.

A piece by AP just hit the wires and is already on the Boston Globe
site and they got it pretty much right this time. A photographer was
just here and spend half an hour taking more pictures of me than my
parents probably ever did. Papers should be picking this up tomorrow.

I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)

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Roger Long

Don W - 23 Feb 2006 23:53 GMT
Hi Roger,

I saw a blurb on the web today.  They are putting a lot of "push"
into it.  Looks like it will be an interesting show.

Don W.

> Some of you, presumably without PDA’s or calendars, requested a
> reminder about the Titanic show closer to air time. Here it is:
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> I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
> Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)
Don White - 24 Feb 2006 00:11 GMT
> Some of you, presumably without PDA’s or calendars, requested a
> reminder about the Titanic show closer to air time. Here it is:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
> Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)

This could be your 'big break'.  Need an agent?
Barky Bark - 24 Feb 2006 02:57 GMT
> I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
> Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)

I personally want a lock of pubic hair.
Larry - 24 Feb 2006 04:20 GMT
"Barky Bark" <barkybark@bonksbcglobal.net> wrote in news:DCuLf.12119
$rL5.3457@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:

>> I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
>> Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)
>
> I personally want a lock of pubic hair.

Oh, Roger....SEND IT TO HIM!....(C;
Don White - 24 Feb 2006 14:50 GMT
> "Barky Bark" <barkybark@bonksbcglobal.net> wrote in news:DCuLf.12119
> $rL5.3457@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Oh, Roger....SEND IT TO HIM!....(C;

Better yet...send it to his wife.
purple_stars - 24 Feb 2006 07:35 GMT
[snip]
> Sunday, February 26, 9:00 PM EST, History Channel. I will be on a live
> call in Internet chat for the hour following.
[snip]

looking forward to it!  congratulations on fame and fortune!  or at
least fame! :)
Thomas Wentworth - 25 Feb 2006 15:03 GMT
Roger,, I saw an ad for the show.  I am going to watch it!  If I ever buy a
boat [ this boat hunting thing is more work than fun, although I have had a
very good education in the last two months ],  ........  I think I will name
my dinghy the "Titanic".

Is that against the boating Gods?  Will I wake up in the middle of the night
with a band standing on my deck playing "Nearer my God to Thee"?

Did the Titanic's life boats have names?  What happened to the Titanic's
lifeboats?  I bet one of them would be worth a fortune.

============
> Some of you, presumably without PDA's or calendars, requested a reminder
> about the Titanic show closer to air time. Here it is:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I've already received my first email request for an autograph. Hopefully,
> more interesting requests will follow:)
Roger Long - 25 Feb 2006 15:14 GMT
There is a good site on the show here:

http://titanicsfinalmoments.com/

As far as I know, the lifeboats only had numbers and I think they went
to other ships.

I think it would be OK to name your dinghy "Titanic" as long as you
don't row it near ice.

BTW for anyone in the Portland area, I'll be doing a 1 hour show at
9:00 on WGAN radio tomorrow morning(Sunday, Feb 26).  This should be
the most complete discussion of the technical issues available
anywhere for a long time.

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Roger Long

Thomas Wentworth - 26 Feb 2006 00:52 GMT
Roger ,,, what happens to the steel, iron, after so many years under water?
Doesn't it just turn back into rust or sand?

> There is a good site on the show here:
>
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> complete discussion of the technical issues available anywhere for a long
> time.
Roger Long - 26 Feb 2006 01:08 GMT
It's being eaten by iron loving bacteria that create the long fuzzy
things you see all over the wreck.  About four tons a day is
disappearing.  How did all these iron eating bugs end up in a desert
12,500 feet down where there is no other iron?  One of life's
mysteries.

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Roger Long

> Roger ,,, what happens to the steel, iron, after so many years under
> water? Doesn't it just turn back into rust or sand?
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>> be the most complete discussion of the technical issues available
>> anywhere for a long time.
DSK - 26 Feb 2006 13:07 GMT
"Thomas Wentworth" wrote
>> Roger ,,, what happens to the steel, iron, after so many years under
>> water? Doesn't it just turn back into rust or sand?

> It's being eaten by iron loving bacteria that create the long fuzzy
> things you see all over the wreck.  About four tons a day is
> disappearing.  How did all these iron eating bugs end up in a desert
> 12,500 feet down where there is no other iron?  One of life's
> mysteries.

Lots of fascinating things... organisms from fish on down...
live in the deep ocean & nowhere else. There are many
species of little critters that live in oceanic volcanic
plumes at temperatures that seem impossible to sustain life.

Not only is the iron being eaten but the bodies have been
totally dissolved, including the bones. Chemistry works
different at such high pressures.

About the Titanic and ocean liners in general, there is
another USENET discussion group much like this one:
alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic which was very active some
years ago, discussing everything from what-ifs (the head-on
scenario, the California rescue, etc etc) to engineering
details.

There are also a LOT of interesting resources out there. Two
of the most interesting to me:

http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/wheel.html
Right on the money, lots of other subjects, and the author
is also a cruising sailor with a lot of good stuff about
that too.

http://home.flash.net/~rfm/index/contents.html
The most unusual model of the Titanic you'll find, along
with a lot of info about the wreck as it happened and as she
is now.

Regards
Doug King
Don White - 26 Feb 2006 17:48 GMT
> "Thomas Wentworth" wrote
>
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> Regards
> Doug King

I can't find the Titanic show on our local 'History Television' channel.
This station must be different from the 'History Channel' broadcast
stateside.
Roger Long - 26 Feb 2006 18:06 GMT
> I can't find the Titanic show on our local 'History Television'
> channel.
> This station must be different from the 'History Channel' broadcast
> stateside.

It is, unfortunately.  I think the UK and Canada HC's are separate as
well.  The History Channel in Britain ran a show on a different 2005
expedition which created all sorts of confusion.

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Don White - 27 Feb 2006 00:30 GMT
>>I can't find the Titanic show on our local 'History Television'
>>channel.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> well.  The History Channel in Britain ran a show on a different 2005
> expedition which created all sorts of confusion.

Here's what I get on cable station 46 here in Halifax.
http://www.historytelevision.ca/
Larry - 27 Feb 2006 01:30 GMT
Don White <whited@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in news:zKrMf.35734$VV4.462931
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:

> Here's what I get on cable station 46 here in Halifax.
> http://www.historytelevision.ca/

Thank you, Canada and UK!  I get lots of your shows downloaded from
alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries
alt.binaries.multimedia.comedy
alt.binaries.multimedia.comedy.british

Thanks to CBC, BBC and the pirates, we CIA-controlled corporate slaves in
the USA can still see television programming that's not 50 minutes of spam
an hour and only what the CIA wants us to see.

I offered BBC-TV to pay the UK Television Tax to support them streaming TV
on the net like they do all their radio shows....but they won't....yet...
mike.e.worrall@abc.com - 25 Feb 2006 16:45 GMT
I think it's time we left this vessel - and the 1,517 who went down wit
her - alone.  These ongoing intrusions (and subsequent for-profit
displays of her contents at traveling exhibitions) strike me more as
grave robing than of 'science'.

Enough already!

MW
purple_stars - 25 Feb 2006 19:59 GMT
i've always disagreed with this "grave robbing" thought process for a
number of reasons, though i know since the popular hollywood movie
about the ship it's become an equally popular point of view.  funny how
popular hollywood movies do that very thing!  one reason is that it's
simply history, it's a giant shipwreck, a huge disaster, and surely
deserves study to understand it.  and it deserves to be studied as
cultural history also, we certainly wouldn't leave a roman galley at
the bottom of the ocean for fear of disturbing the souls on board, or a
nazi u-boat if we found one, we'd bring it to the surface, clean her
up, and stick her in a museum with bones and bearings for the world to
see.  there's a lot to be gained by that, a lot to learn.  and third,
and more important i would think, is that these people had families,
they were human beings.  and i wouldn't want to be left there if i was
them, i'd want to be taken home and buried in the dirt, even if my
grave were unmarked with the others, so that i could rest.  opinions
may vary on this topic, and since the popularity of the movie "titanic"
they certainly do, but i wouldn't want to be left in the cold dark
waters of the north atlantic.  let's bring home as many as can be
found, strike up the band and finally bring her in to port, have some
parades and put the poor people to rest.  if i ever go to the bottom by
all means find me!  and take me home to the ground where i was born and
toss some dirt on me.

> I think it's time we left this vessel - and the 1,517 who went down wit
> her - alone.  These ongoing intrusions (and subsequent for-profit
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> MW
Mys Terry - 26 Feb 2006 18:40 GMT
>Some of you, presumably without PDA’s or calendars, requested a
>reminder about the Titanic show closer to air time. Here it is:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
>Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)

For those who are interested:

http://www.historychannel.com/titanic/?page=home
Wayne.B - 27 Feb 2006 04:37 GMT
>Some of you, presumably without PDA’s or calendars, requested a
>reminder about the Titanic show closer to air time. Here it is:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>I’ve already received my first email request for an autograph.
>Hopefully, more interesting requests will follow:)

Roger, saw the show and liked it a lot.  Well done.

I was curious about the costs and the funding.  Did the History
Channel fund the entire expedition?
purple_stars - 27 Feb 2006 08:37 GMT
[snip]

congratulations roger!  it was a great show, enjoyed it very much! :)
 
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