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Boat Forum / Cruising / March 2006Followup question to Marathon Wind Patterns
Followup question, as this group has been great in providing alternative ideas: Our boat draws 6-6 in flat water, bouncy water is more, of course, and an air draft of 64'. So, in the inverse of the song, "so high, you can't get under it, so low, you can't get over it" is of great concern. Not dealing with innumerable crab pots if we have to motor, particularly, despite our newly-to-be-installed propsaver, is interesting to us, too - thus the thought of staying outside as much as possible on the way. Our need is to get to someplace outside FL (not to come back for 183 days minimum) within 20 days' travel from St. Pete; we're planning on a backup of going into a qualified marina to stop the clock if we don't time it right and the wait gets nervous-making. Various other routes have been suggested other than Marathon and across. With the above as parameters, and with a reiteration of the first one's comment that we won't cross with a north wind component - anything with an "N" in the direction, are there better suggestions on how to get to a fuel stop in the Bahamas (don't care where) from St. Pete in the shortest amount of time? Thanks again for all the help. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain >Followup question, as this group has been great in providing >alternative [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >stop in the Bahamas (don't care where) from St. Pete in the shortest amount >of time? http://www.bahamas-travel.info/marinas.htm Fuel stops in the Bahamas that are close to Florida include Bimini - you can clear in here, and they have fuel but there may be a problem of draft for you although I understand the range has been lighted. West End - usually done from farther up Florida (like Ft. Pierce or Lake Worth, but I would personally go from Ft. Lauderdale), but I don't think there are any draft problems, and you can clear in here. Cat Cay - this is a private island, but you can clear in here and get fuel I think. I understand that they will charge dockage for checking in - have not been here myself. Don't know about entrance channel drafts. South of Bimini and probably a better place to go from Marathon. A little farther away are Lucaya - perfectly good entrance channel for daylight entrance and leading up to it is a deep water channel. They have fuel and you can check in here. Has been cheaper than West End and closer to almost anything. (i.e. West End is very isolated) Go to the marina on the right of the entrance channel - the one on the left is for power boats and is much noisier. If I were up in this area, I'd prefer to go into Lucaya rather than West End. Chubb Cay in the Berry Islands - you have to cross the Grand Bahama Bank to get here, and it is also a membership island, but they do have a non-member area, and they have fuel and you can check in here. You can also check in on Andros, but there isn't a marina there AFAIK and you have to anchor out. I have not done that. >Thanks again for all the help. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Explore. >Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain grandma Rosalie I've just read in Lat and Att's April issue that 1) Bimini harbor is quite shoaled from the hurricanes and also from construction 2) Cat Cay has been sold and they are redoing the harbor. It was supposed to be open this month, but don't count on it. 3) The marina at West End (Old Bahama Bay) was also pretty much done in by Wilma. They recommend Lucaya and so do I under the circumstances. >>Followup question, as this group has been great in providing >>alternative [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > >grandma Rosalie grandma Rosalie Dad was just reading this week that for some reason FL doesn't accept 183 days in the Bahamas as being out of FL to avoid the tax because...something to do with the fact that many FL boat owners keep their boats there anyway...or something to that effect. Anyone heard of that? Glenn. > I've just read in Lat and Att's April issue that > 1) Bimini harbor is quite shoaled from the hurricanes and also from [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > grandma Rosalie >Dad was just reading this week that for some reason FL doesn't accept 183 >days in the Bahamas as being out of FL to avoid the tax because...something >to do with the fact that many FL boat owners keep their boats there >anyway...or something to that effect. Anyone heard of that? There are probably two kinds of taxes here. One is the registration fee in Florida, and according to regulations if you are in the state more than 90 days then you have to register your boat in Florida - whether or not it is registered or documented in another state. This is from the FL Dept Rev site >Use tax may become due when a boat is required to be titled and/or registered in Florida. Florida titling and/or registration is required: > > * Within 30 days after purchase. > * Within 90 days after the boat enters Florida, if it is currently documented, titled, and/or registered in another state. > >A boat that remains in Florida for more than 90 consecutive days or more than 183 days in a one-year period is presumed taxable, unless it qualifies for another exemption. The other regulation has to do with the tax (or whatever they call it) that is due when you BUY a boat. (sales and use tax). This is a MUCH LARGER amount of money. The registration is trivial compared to this. .... >Use tax is not due on boats brought to Florida if all of the following conditions are met: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > * Within 10 days of removal, the purchaser must furnish DOR with proof that the boat left Florida (for example: receipts for fuel, dockage, or repairs purchased outside Florida). > * Within 30 days of removal, the purchaser must provide DOR with written proof that the boat was licensed, titled, registered, or documented outside the state; or provide evidence that he or she has applied for such documentation. > Penalty and Interest >Anyone who purchases a boat and obtains a tax exemption under the nonresident removal provisions will be subject to use tax, discretionary sales surtax, interest, and penalties (including a mandatory penalty equal to the tax) if: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >A purchaser who attempts to evade tax by giving a fraudulent affidavit is subject to the tax due, interest, and a mandatory 200 percent penalty. The purchaser may also be subject to a fine of up to $5,000 and up to 5 years in prison. >> I've just read in Lat and Att's April issue that >> 1) Bimini harbor is quite shoaled from the hurricanes and also from [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] >> >> grandma Rosalie grandma Rosalie |
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