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Boat Forum / Cruising / March 2006Please folks
Have some sympathy for those of us who fight tendonitis from doing too much computer work while trying to get our boats back in the water. Having to scroll down through one or two pages of stuff we've already read on each and every message in a long thread gets really irksome. It's expecially aggravating when all you find at the bottom is a one line smart a.s coment instead of something useful. Did you know that, if you click the mouse, hold down the shift key and scroll down, pressing "Delete" will make all that stuff disappear? The minor inconvienience of occasionally having to go back up the thread to figure out what the person meant is nothing compared to the drudgery of scrolling down over, and over, and over. Every once in a while some newsgroup nazi will come out screaming about "Top Posting" but, the way these groups are used today, it makes sense. If you must leave everything that came before, do it. The reader can immediately read the smart a.s comment at the top. If it doesn't make sense, they can then skip down to find the context. When the context is necessary or you want to make clear which point you are responding to, cut and past just the "Pighead wrote:" and the relevant point to the top and then respond. I'm not trying to be a newsgroup nazi here myself. I would just like to be able to read all your insightful and incredibly knowledgable posting while preserving enough wrist function to be able to go out and sand all the bottom paint on my 32 foot boat.  SignatureRoger Long "Roger Long" <rwlong@maine.rr.com> wrote in news:zyPWf.20261$Da7.12289 @twister.nyroc.rr.com: > I would just like > to be able to read all your insightful and incredibly knowledgable > posting while preserving enough wrist function to be able to go out > and sand all the bottom paint on my 32 foot boat. The only problem with this action is this is rec.boats.cruising, a meeting place, not rec.boats.maintenance, a needed newsgroup maybe we should request. If noone could post anything but maintenance problems and their solutions to the newsgroup, the group would be full of people, like yourself, asking for help. Those who don't need help and are providing the ton of information you've, personally, gotten in answer to your personal problems wouldn't stay on the group, as a social group, and the helpers would never see your volumous questions. Maybe we shouldn't view this as the guys sitting around the bar listening to Buffett on the old Seeburg, eh? Let's start a new group, rec.boats.party where all technical, maintenance and problem resolution we've all helped you with is forbidden, going unanswered. I'd bet the helpers would move to the new bar for a few drinks and a few laughs. Isn't that what cruising is all about? I'd hate to think it was only about maintenance, as you suggest. It isn't maintenance vs. social at all. Having to scroll down through a couple of pages of suff you have already read (4 or 5 times on a long thread) is even more aggravating and less necessary on the social banter. I enjoy that stuff as well and it's more enjoyable when you can just click down the thread like a conversation instead of having to keep scrolling to the bottom. I like the idea of a maintenance only group but I suspect result in there just being two groups with about the same ratio of maintenance related posts and social stuff on each. SignatureRoger Long So you're claiming that unsnipped bottom posting would be easier to read if the name of the group was changed? > The only problem with this action is this is rec.boats.cruising, a meeting > place, not rec.boats.maintenance, a needed newsgroup maybe we should [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > that what cruising is all about? I'd hate to think it was only about > maintenance, as you suggest. > So you're claiming that unsnipped bottom posting would be easier to > read if the name of the group was changed? [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> about? I'd hate to think it was only about maintenance, as you >> suggest. Oh, so that's what he meant! (Just kidding) SignatureRoger Long LOL! Pot, kettle, etc., original left below as requested originally, illustrating the original complaint. SignatureL8R Skip, back home for a bit of therapy, weddings and travel Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her "Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in boats-or *with* boats. In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's the charm of it. Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not." >> So you're claiming that unsnipped bottom posting would be easier to read >> if the name of the group was changed? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > (Just kidding) >I would just like >to be able to read all your insightful and incredibly knowledgable >posting while preserving enough wrist function to be able to go out >and sand all the bottom paint on my 32 foot boat. Hah! You're just trying to find some reason to delay going out there and sanding all the bottom paint. Been there, done that. Try getting a good multi year bottom paint, should be easy in the cold waters of Maine. I've been getting good results with Micron Optima with Biolux. It's still going strong after 18 months in SWFL, 6,000 miles of serious cruising to Canada and back, and just about everywhere in between. Why not just click on the middle button, hold it down, move the text at your pleasure? Because my boat came from fresh water, all the grief and expense being discussed here, and Interlux and the yard's assurance that it was the only thing that would stick, I'm using VC 17M. I don't have a lot of experience to compare it to but I'm clearly going to have to buy a wet suit or at least something nice for a diver friend mid season. It goes on pretty thin so I shouldn't have to face the conversion agony for a few years. Surface prep is pretty simple. Knock off any loose stuff (not much, even after converting from straight VC 17 to the 17 M) and go over it with a Scotch Bright pad or light sanding. The yard said that, if I do it wet over a drop cloth and let it dry before painting, I won't have to rent their vacuum sander. SignatureRoger Long "Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats@hotmail.com> wrote > Try getting a good multi year bottom paint, should be easy in the cold > waters of Maine. I've been getting good results with Micron Optima > with Biolux. It's still going strong after 18 months in SWFL, 6,000 > miles of serious cruising to Canada and back, and just about > everywhere in between. Have been using VC 17 for years on a 33' sailboat in Long Island Sound. No prep needed after a power wash. I use two coats-it dries so fast I can do both in a few hours. > Because my boat came from fresh water, all the grief and expense being > discussed here, and Interlux and the yard's assurance that it was the [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > miles of serious cruising to Canada and back, and just about > > everywhere in between. |
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