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Dinghies Again -- Portland Pudgy?

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Ruby Vee - 29 Apr 2008 23:26 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with the Portland Pudgy?  It looks like
a fairly versitile dinghy, and when we're ready to go to sea, we can
add the lifeboat package.  We can row it or motor it -- even sail it if
we buy the sailing packagage.  Right now I'd settle for rowing -- we
have no dinghy!

Ruby
Jay - 02 May 2008 04:31 GMT
No experience but it might help if you had posted the link.  Here it
is.  Sounds like quite an interesting little boat.  Good luck.
-Jay

http://www.portlandpudgy.com/frequently_asked_questions.htm#General:
Harlan Lachman - 02 May 2008 14:03 GMT
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> No experience but it might help if you had posted the link.  Here it
> is.  Sounds like quite an interesting little boat.  Good luck.
> -Jay
>
> http://www.portlandpudgy.com/frequently_asked_questions.htm#General:

I searched for pricing information and demonstrated my incompetence. Any
ideas or facts...

harlan
Capt. JG - 02 May 2008 18:49 GMT
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> harlan

They're about $2000 US without accessories.

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Harlan Lachman - 02 May 2008 20:06 GMT
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> They're about $2000 US without accessories.

Thanks. From where?

And, if one thinks a poly hull might fare better and be more durable
than my Achilles as a dingy left outdoors and little maintained, are
there other models to consider for one whose beach is a rock ledge along
which the boat has to be dragged to the water?

TIA,

harlan
Capt. JG - 02 May 2008 20:36 GMT
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> harlan

Type: Portland Pudgy price (no quotes) in google.

It's the first hit (pdf). I don't know much about the boat, but it does look
interesting.

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Harlan Lachman - 02 May 2008 22:30 GMT
> Portland Pudgy price

Thank you for answering what now appears to be a mindless post. Old age
is striking again...

harlan
Capt. JG - 02 May 2008 23:13 GMT
>> Portland Pudgy price
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> Thank you for answering what now appears to be a mindless post. Old age
> is striking again...
>
> harlan

Heh...

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salty@dog.com - 02 May 2008 20:37 GMT
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>harlan

You sound like a prime candidate for a Porta-Bote

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Dave - 02 May 2008 22:13 GMT
>And, if one thinks a poly hull might fare better and be more durable
>than my Achilles as a dingy left outdoors and little maintained, are
>there other models to consider for one whose beach is a rock ledge along
>which the boat has to be dragged to the water?

For many years I had a Sportyak, which was made of poly in a construction
that seems similar to that described for the Pudgy. The boat was smaller,
and much lighter. A sailing rig and motor bracket were available options.
Very tough little boats. It did finally develop a leak after many years of
being dragged over rocky beaches. They also made an 8' model, which I think
is now marketed by Bic, the French company.
Roger Long - 02 May 2008 11:12 GMT
My impression, as a boat designer who sees them nearly daily as I go in and
out of Hamilton Marine is that they are a very cool idea well executed.  I
would love to have one.  The primary drawback is the weight.  On a slightly
larger boat than mine with stern davits or some other arrangement for
getting a boat on board it would be great.

I can get my 8 foot glass dinghy on board with the spinnaker halyard and it
will fit on the foredeck upside down with the transom on the cabin top.  I
have to turn it over on the deck however and I think the Pudgy would be too
heavy to do this; especially after my recent experience with my back.  I
haven't checked about the fit but it looks so unlikely that I haven't
pursued the idea.   I almost always tow but want the option of having the
dinghy aboard in some rough conditions.  I wouldn't be too upset to have to
cut my used glass dinghy loose if it became a hazard in bad weather under
tow or the painter broke.  I'd sure hate to see a Pudgy with full life
saving package go out of sight astern though.

If not for these factors, I would probably own one now.

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Roger Long
dougking888@yahoo.com - 02 May 2008 16:14 GMT
> My impression, as a boat designer who sees them nearly daily as I go in and
> out of Hamilton Marine is that they are a very cool idea well executed.  I
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> If not for these factors, I would probably own one now.

I wasn't going to comment, since I've only seen one at the boat show.
But I did have a long talk with the designer/builder. He has taken the
project very seriously, and there are only a very few things that I
think could be done better, and most of them would make the boat cost
a lot more.

One of the most clever things he's done is to refine the sailing gear
for the boat until it almost disappears. A few of you who have
struggled with either trying to rig a sailing dinghy while bobbing
afloat, or trying to do any tender-type functions while the invariably
bulky sailing gear is stowed aboard, will appreciate this.

One thing that could be more cleverly done is to give the boat more
stability & reserve bouyancy. The hull is shaped like the traditional
pram, which is both tiddly and not such a good load-carrier. My
experiments in hull shape show that it *is* possible to make a
traditional looking rowing tender that one can easily stand up in, or
load groceries over the side of, or even take a large & fractious dog
ashore in a choppy anchorage.

The weight issue is important. But without doing something expensive
like building the boat in foam core, it's not going to get any better.
One option for both cost & weight would be to build one yourself in
4mm ply (or foam core), copying as many features of the design as you
can.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King
 
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