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Vic Smith - 12 Jul 2008 20:24 GMT
Ran across this:

http://www.tropicalboating.com/boating-equipment/clear-bottom-bucket.html

Anybody using one, or a facsimile?
Seems reasonable for seeing the anchor set in clear waters.

--Vic
Capt. JG - 12 Jul 2008 21:54 GMT
> Ran across this:
>
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> --Vic

Might be useful in the tropics, but out here, you can't see the bottom...
course, it's mostly mud....

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Larry - 13 Jul 2008 03:45 GMT
> Might be useful in the tropics, but out here, you can't see the
> bottom... course, it's mostly mud....

Here you could see the little critters clogging up every strainer every 3
days....peering back at you showing his little prehistoric teeth....

They bite like hell!

Damned strainers.
Capt. JG - 13 Jul 2008 05:22 GMT
>> Might be useful in the tropics, but out here, you can't see the
>> bottom... course, it's mostly mud....
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>
> Damned strainers.

It's been over two years since my last bottom paint. So far, the only thing
I've noticed is that my knot meter sticks for a couple of minutes when I
first start moving.

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tsmwebb@gmail.com - 13 Jul 2008 17:49 GMT
..
> It's been over two years since my last bottom paint. So far, the only thing
> I've noticed is that my knot meter sticks for a couple of minutes when I
> first start moving. ...

What are you using?  I swam the bottom a week or so ago and
practically had to use a machete to get the growth off.

-- Tom.
Capt. JG - 13 Jul 2008 18:03 GMT
I'd have to look it up, but it was Trinidad something or other. At one
point, I hadn't used the boat for a couple of weeks, and there was a small
"edge" of green, but that went away as soon as I got going.

On Jul 12, 9:22 pm, "Capt. JG" <jg...@sailnow.invalid> wrote:
..
> It's been over two years since my last bottom paint. So far, the only
> thing
> I've noticed is that my knot meter sticks for a couple of minutes when I
> first start moving. ...

What are you using?  I swam the bottom a week or so ago and
practically had to use a machete to get the growth off.

-- Tom.

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Wilbur Hubbard - 12 Jul 2008 22:10 GMT
> Ran across this:
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> --Vic

Stupid idea. The real way to "see" your anchor set is to back down on it. If
it holds then it's set. If it drags then it isn't set. Don't make a mountain
out of a mole hill!

Wilbur Hubbard
Vic Smith - 12 Jul 2008 22:29 GMT
>> Ran across this:
>>
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>it holds then it's set. If it drags then it isn't set. Don't make a mountain
>out of a mole hill!

I've read in more than one cruising journal the cruiser diving to see
that the anchor is set good and not just snagged on a small coral head
or a hardbottom ledge.
Was thinking this "viewer" might do in some cases.
Still don't know if it's worth dragging along on my Mac 26M - when and
if I get it.
Considering the freeboard I'd need a mighty long bucket.

--Vic
Wilbur Hubbard - 12 Jul 2008 22:37 GMT
>>> Ran across this:
>>>
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>
> --Vic

Well, if you're fortunate enough to be sailing a Mac26M then you hardly need
to worry about a glass-bottomed bucket to see your anchor. I understand
those Macs with board up draw about a foot. Why, you could anchor, step off
the transom into the water and wade to your anchor and set it by hand if you
were worried about it.

Wilbur Hubbard
salty@dog.com - 12 Jul 2008 23:52 GMT
>> Ran across this:
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>
>Wilbur Hubbard

I thought you were against having an engine on a SAILboat?
Claus Frørup - 13 Jul 2008 00:09 GMT
Isang tao pinangalanan, salty@dog.com nagsulat:

>On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:10:46 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"

cut
>>Stupid idea. The real way to "see" your anchor set is to back down on it. If
>>it holds then it's set. If it drags then it isn't set. Don't make a mountain
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>
>I thought you were against having an engine on a SAILboat?

Here's a way to back down in order to dig in the anchor:

You steer into the wind, same way as if you would heave-to.
When the sailboat stops dead in the water, you drop the anchor then
push the boom against the wind to the opposite side of the Jib.
Now you grab the tiller and steer the boat as it moves backwards.

With a little luck, you can steer in a straight line till the anchor
digs in.....

I have tried it tvice.....

The first time, it was an accident.

The second time i was trying to impress a ladyfriend.....

Didn't get lucky thogh.......;-)

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salty@dog.com - 13 Jul 2008 00:17 GMT
>Isang tao pinangalanan, salty@dog.com nagsulat:
>
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>Here's a way to back down in order to dig in the anchor:

More interested in digging in Wilbur, the land-bound poser.
Claus Frørup - 13 Jul 2008 00:34 GMT
Isang tao pinangalanan, salty@dog.com nagsulat:

cut

>>Here's a way to back down in order to dig in the anchor:
>
>More interested in digging in Wilbur, the land-bound poser.

What about the armchair?

How do you get him out of that?

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salty@dog.com - 13 Jul 2008 01:27 GMT
>Isang tao pinangalanan, salty@dog.com nagsulat:
>
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>How do you get him out of that?

I imagine they are one at this point. Trying to separate them would be fatal to
both.
Claus Frørup - 12 Jul 2008 22:44 GMT
Isang tao pinangalanan, Vic Smith nagsulat:

>Ran across this:
>
>http://www.tropicalboating.com/boating-equipment/clear-bottom-bucket.html
>
>Anybody using one, or a facsimile?
>Seems reasonable for seeing the anchor set in clear waters.

I've got a proper Battiscope. It costs les than 60$ here in Denmark,
so I didn't bother to get creative. It works fine in clear water, but
in murky waters it's useless.
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Wilbur Hubbard - 12 Jul 2008 22:49 GMT
> Isang tao pinangalanan, Vic Smith nagsulat:
>
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> so I didn't bother to get creative. It works fine in clear water, but
> in murky waters it's useless.

Ha ha ha! I clicked on your web page and, I swear, you look just like an
aging JaxAshby!

Wilbur Hubbard
Wilbur Hubbard - 12 Jul 2008 22:56 GMT
> Who am I?
>
> http://www.froerup.dk/claus

Nice little yacht but lose that ugly windshield, please. It ruins the whole
thing . . .

http://www.froerup.dk/claus/nybaad.htm

Wilbur Hubbard
Claus Frørup - 12 Jul 2008 23:51 GMT
Isang tao pinangalanan, Wilbur Hubbard nagsulat:

>Nice little yacht but lose that ugly windshield, please. It ruins the whole
>thing . . .

Thank you but no. I wouldn't dream of parting with that windshield.
It has proven its worth over and over again contrary to the original
dodger, which was butt-ugly, flimpsy and a true eye-sore.

>http://www.froerup.dk/claus/nybaad.htm
>
>Wilbur Hubbard

I wasn't aware that you Habla mi Lingo, but for readers to whom the
Danish language is gibberish, the English translation is on:

http://www.froerup.dk/claus/windscreen.htm

;-)
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Vic Smith - 12 Jul 2008 22:59 GMT
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:44:19 +0200, Claus Fr?rup <Claus@froerup.dk>
wrote:

>Battiscope

Yes, that's a bit handier and smaller.  Do you actually use it once
the novelty is gone?
Personally, I wouldn't mind having some type of reverse periscope
device in clear waters, but I sometimes enjoy watching fish.

--Vic
Claus Frørup - 13 Jul 2008 00:31 GMT
Isang tao pinangalanan, Vic Smith nagsulat:

>On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:44:19 +0200, Claus Fr?rup <Claus@froerup.dk>
>wrote:
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>Yes, that's a bit handier and smaller.  Do you actually use it once
>the novelty is gone?

It does come out of the locker once in a while, but mostly when I take
the youngest nieces and nephews out for a fishingtrip.

>Personally, I wouldn't mind having some type of reverse periscope
>device in clear waters, but I sometimes enjoy watching fish.

That could easily be made of a downspout and a couples of mirrors.
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Capt. JG - 13 Jul 2008 01:14 GMT
> Isang tao pinangalanan, Vic Smith nagsulat:
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> That could easily be made of a downspout and a couples of mirrors.

That might be useful if you need to look at your prop or examine the hull or
keel without getting wet.

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salty@dog.com - 13 Jul 2008 01:29 GMT
>> Isang tao pinangalanan, Vic Smith nagsulat:
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>That might be useful if you need to look at your prop or examine the hull or
>keel without getting wet.

Not really, as someone still has to go down to shine a light on the subject!
Capt. JG - 13 Jul 2008 05:24 GMT
>>> Isang tao pinangalanan, Vic Smith nagsulat:
>>>
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> Not really, as someone still has to go down to shine a light on the
> subject!

Even better! Mount a light on the periscope. I have one of those penlight
LEDs that are waterproof.

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Bob - 13 Jul 2008 04:14 GMT
On Jul 12, 11:24 am, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Ran across this:
>
> http://www.tropicalboating.com/boating-equipment/clear-bottom-bucket....
>
> Anybody using one, or a facsimile?
> Seems reasonable for seeing the anchor set in clear waters

I agree with WIllbur but his reply was unsualy shallow and thin. Try
this:

Its a stupid idea for pussys who want to be on a boat but who are
afraid of the water. I could name a few here but cordialality stops
me. So keep sitting in the cock pit drinkin sissy drinks and burning
sh.t in those rediculus stainless steel butane bar b q. Now add a
bucket with a plexi bottom..... Christ!

If you modify the original bucket a bit by adding a soft material
around the rim and adding a flexable strap taking the place of the
bucket handle then you could fasten it to your face! Now that is how
ROger thinks..........

You cant polish a turd.............................................

Get a mask for god sakes and use it
or
Get one of those $200 video fish you can plop over the side if yore
afraid of the water or a cardiac case so fuckin fat ya cant move that
far.

A bucket with a plex bottom! get a life and stop reading books titled
History Beneath theSea: 1000 BC to 1850"

Bob
Jere Lull - 13 Jul 2008 07:34 GMT
> Ran across this:
>
> http://www.tropicalboating.com/boating-equipment/clear-bottom-bucket.html
>
> Anybody using one, or a facsimile?
> Seems reasonable for seeing the anchor set in clear waters.

If the water's clear enough to use one, it's probably warm enough to
snorkel, which is faster and more fun. Reflection can be a problem with
the buckets.

My wife, who is not a comfortable swimmer, likes the boogie boards with
an imbedded mask. No reflection and her face stays clear of the water.
I've been weaning her off of that to a snorkeling vest, mask and
snorkel, but she doesn't get enough practice.

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Dennis Pogson - 13 Jul 2008 09:43 GMT
> Ran across this:
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> --Vic

One of those remote-controlled slave submarines they use to view wrecks such
as the Titanic would be useful. You could then watch your anchor set on a TV
screen.

Isn't sailing getting expensive these days?

Dennis.
Richard Casady - 27 Jul 2008 01:52 GMT
>One of those remote-controlled slave submarines they use to view wrecks such
>as the Titanic would be useful. You could then watch your anchor set on a TV
>screen.

They make a fairly cheap TV camera that you can lower from the boat.
In some third world shitholes, divers will steal your anchor,
substituting a bag of rocks. So keep an eye on it, and throw in a
stick of powder, if indicated.

Casady
ohara5.0@mindspring.com - 27 Jul 2008 21:38 GMT
On Jul 26, 8:52 pm, richardcas...@earthlink.net (Richard Casady)
wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:43:34 +0100, "Dennis Pogson"
>
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> Casady

I thank the original poster for the inspiration.  I can no longer
snorkel due to really bad eyes and I want to go scalloping witht eh
kids.  This is the answer.
Herodotus - 13 Jul 2008 13:01 GMT
>Ran across this:
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>--Vic
I built one using an ordinary bucket with the bottom cut out and
replaced with clear polycarbonate.

It was great for the kids to see the fish beneath the surface and the
bottom creatures such as anenomes, shrimps, crabs et al without
getting out of the dinghy.

Peter
Armond Perretta - 13 Jul 2008 13:19 GMT
> ...
> http://www.tropicalboating.com/boating-equipment/clear-bottom-bucket.html
>
> Anybody using one, or a facsimile?
> Seems reasonable for seeing the anchor set in clear waters.

I picked up the "genuine article" in the Bahamas many years ago.  Mine is a
wooden bucket with iron bands that originally came with a clear plastic
bottom.  I have since had to replace the bottom with a piece of heavy duty
glass.  If you like to snorkel or fish for lobster in the tropics, the
bucket is almost a must.  In the Bahamas especially, since the water is
quite clear, you can really see what's going on with the anchor(s), etc.  In
the past decade I have been wandering in the Maritimes and the bucket hasn't
seen much use, but it does often remind me of way back when.

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Capt.Bill - 13 Jul 2008 18:05 GMT
> Ran across this:
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> --Vic

Yes, been using them for years. Handy for a lot of things. Not the
least of which is when you need a bucket.
Wilbur Hubbard - 13 Jul 2008 22:02 GMT
> Yes, been using them for years. Handy for a lot of things. Not the
> least of which is when you need a bucket.

But who wants to squint through skid marks?

Wilbur Hubbard
Capt.Bill - 15 Jul 2008 14:56 GMT
On Jul 13, 5:02 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invalid>
wrote:

> > Yes, been using them for years. Handy for a lot of things. Not the
> > least of which is when you need a bucket.
>
> But who wants to squint through skid marks?
>
> Wilbur Hubbard

You should used to that by now.
over40pirate@aol.com - 16 Jul 2008 00:03 GMT
> On Jul 13, 5:02�pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invalid>
> wrote:
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> You should used to that by now.

EASY BUCKET

I made my first "glas" bottom bucket with one of those 5 gallon
plastic buckets that everything comes in.  I got a scrap piece od
clear vinyl, dodger glass material and put it over the top of the
bucket. There are a couple of ribs around the top, that are perfect
for putting a large, or a bunch of hooked together, hose clamps. Then
just cut the bottom out of the bucket.
A line tied around the top would work in a pinch.

In the Bahamas, I anchored near someone I had met before. After
checking my anchors with the bucket, I rowed over to his boat. He
asked to see my bucket, and said "damn" He then showed me his wood
bucket he just paid big bucks for trhe week before!

The bucket with the "glass on the top has a wider viewing area then
one with plexiglas in the bottom. You need to leave a 1" or so lip in
the bottom to bolt in the glass.
 
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