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Boat Forum / Cruising / July 2008The organized assault upon success
Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. Joe of the sunken "Red Cloud." They say, "Well, at least he tried, he deserves credit for that, doesn't he?" Not and not! If you agree with the above statements then you should have some serious doubts concerning your education and thought process. Giving people credit for "trying" and "doing it" is the mentality of a liberal. It's exactly what they teach in public schools these days. There are no winners or losers, there are only those who try. Trying is the goal. Trying is everything or at least the most important thing. Winning or losing, amateur or professional, shoddy or workmanlike, etc., are just some inconsequential results of trying. This is such destructive thinking. Yet many of you have bought into it as evidenced by your comments. When somebody like Skip is given credit for being out there doing it, where's the consideration of HOW he's doing it and if he's doing it successfully or doing it sloppily, dangerously and ineptly. Is he a credit to manhood and seamanship or is he an embarrassment? When somebody else give Capt. Joe credit for trying, even in the face of abject failure, they don't take into consideration the FACT that trying without success is failure. In effect they give credit for failure. A liberal brainwashing seems to have rearranged priorities to sap the will of individuals and to take away the importance of individual initiative, professionalism and success. Those satisfied with having none of these are mere shadows of men. It's a crying shame. Wilbur Hubbard >Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's >out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Wilbur Hubbard Lets not forget that as a military man, McCain was a huge failure. He was captured by the enemy. >>Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's >>out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Lets not forget that as a military man, McCain was a huge failure. He >was captured by the enemy. Let's not forget that as a doctor, Howard Dean was a huge failure. The hideous abortions he performed aside, many of his patients died under his care. That's why he's not doctoring anymore but is still performing his ultimate abortion upon the Democrat Party. >>>Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's >>>out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >his care. That's why he's not doctoring anymore but is still >performing his ultimate abortion upon the Democrat Party. ??? >>>>Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's >>>>out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >??? Straw Man.  SignatureAgent 5.00 Build 1159 Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/ Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats On Jul 21, 1:39 pm, sa...@dog.com wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:01:49 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Following Dullards line of thinking then we all must assume that lady teacher and crew lost on the space shuttle... failures. If you explode..you fail. John Paul Jones was a failure, KIA Ol Honest Abe...failure. Can't properly attend theater Shackelton,..lost boat in ice. Opps ...he left out the crew of the USS Arizona.... lost the ship at the dock for cripes sake! What about the big looser Steve Fossett. Gone lost ship Those Texans in the Alamo...defeated Amelia Erhart...lost Triston ..sh.t he sunk his boat 8 times JKF..That dumb MF got his boat run over and sunk. Bull Halsey lost several ships in a storm But Neal Warren will never loose anything he has not allready lost. He's like a castrated man in a whore house. He's there every night, he see it done every night, he see how it should be done every night, but he can't do it himself. The Original Fred >>Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's >>out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >Lets not forget that as a military man, McCain was a huge failure. He >was captured by the enemy. Kind of hard not to be when your airplane stops flying... Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) >>It's a crying shame. >>Wilbur Hubbard Not nearly as pathetic as you, the guy that never goes out on a boat at all. > Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a > break, he's out there doing it." Other people make much the same [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Wilbur Hubbard My father threw me into a sailing dinghy at the age of seven, and told me to "learn sailing". Not everyone has such an early or intense initiation into the pastime, nor do the ones who are smitten later in life all assimilate the know-how by sailing for some time with other more experienced sailors before setting out on their own. Later, much later, I raced as a crew member for quite a few years before buying my own sailboat. Racing is the lifeblood of the sport, whether you agree with this statement or not. You learn more about sailing in a days' racing than in a year's pottering about. in boats. To criticise someone who tries hard to learn by (often bitter) experience is unfair, since luck and circumstance play a big part in gaining experience in any pastime or profession. I will say one thing about Skip, he's a brave man for choosing to share the learning process with his wife, I would never dare to have done that, I get the feeling that my wife is glad to see the back of me when I go sailing. So be it! You can have too many "experts" in a family, and they become tiresome bores methinks! During my lifetime I have taken out many beginners of all ages. Some take the helm and can steer as though they had been sailing from birth, others are simply hopeless, yet I would never cruiticise a newcomer because he or she found the experience a challenge too many. I, too, have grounded a sailboat many times, but never, thankfully, with the dire consequences described in some of our postings. Maybe I have been lucky? Or perhaps I spend more time studying the charts than some people! Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't all down to bad seamanship! Dennis. >> Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a >> break, he's out there doing it." Other people make much the same [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't >all down to bad seamanship! Yeah, but Slocum probably realized he screwed up. Skip rationalizes his blunders. Skip is like a two year old that you tell not to put the butter knife in that outlet, so he runs across the room and sticks it in the other one. >> Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a >> break, he's out there doing it." Other people make much the same [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >Dennis. Actually, Slocum had one really bad experience. He didn;t arrive.... Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) >Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't >all down to bad seamanship! We don't know why Slocum disappeared. Casady >>Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't >>all down to bad seamanship! > >We don't know why Slocum disappeared. Good point. Joe and his crew survived. Skip and Lydia are still cruising. Ergo, Joe, Skip and Lydia are better seamen than Slocum. So far. And there just ain't no other way to look at it. --Vic >>Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't >>all down to bad seamanship! > >We don't know why Slocum disappeared. > >Casady It is my firm belief that, when his time came, he was taken up to heaven and instituted as the patron saint of solo sailors. I have prayed to him in my time of need and sacrificed a can of chicken sausages and he helped me survive very bad weather. That's all the proof I need. Peter >>>Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they >>>weren't [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Peter It is well known (by us real sailors, at least) that Capt. Slocum was lost in a gale off Martha's Vineyard. "On November 14, 1909 he was sailing off Martha's Vineyard when a gale came up. He and the Spray were never seen again." This is quoted from a book called "Seafaring America." Copyright 1974 by American Heritage Publishing Company. VK23.L29 378'.0973 74-5301 ISBN 0-07-035847-8 Wilbur Hubbard >>>Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't >>>all down to bad seamanship! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Peter Either that or he landed on some tropical shore, met a nubile young thing and decided to just tie his hammock to the palm tree and stay right there. No more of this stupid sailing. Bruce-in-Bangkok (correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) >>>>Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they weren't >>>>all down to bad seamanship! [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Bruce-in-Bangkok >(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom) Bruce, You are as sacrilegious about the great man as I am. I think I prefer your version though. It must be age after all - no disrespect meant to Slocum. Peter >>>>Give the guy a break, Slocum had a few bad experiences too, and they >>>>weren't [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > thing and decided to just tie his hammock to the palm tree and stay > right there. No more of this stupid sailing. Stop projecting, Brucie Boy! Wilbur Hubbard On Jul 21, 1:01 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invalid> wrote: > Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's > out there doing it." Other people make much the same statements about Capt. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Wilbur Hubbard Nah, having the courage and determination to try something difficult IS good and worthy of commendation, and failure is not in itself cause for shame, or an indicator of a lack of manliness. richforman > Some people make statements such as, "Why don't you give Skip a break, he's > out there doing it." While it seems you've been posting every day, probably not even near the water. SignatureJere Lull Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/ Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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