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Roger Long - 04 Sep 2008 22:13 GMT
I see Zac had to turn back from his departure from Port Moresby because the
engine failed to start.  Smart move.  Better to get it fixed by the people
who should have just fixed it than sail into an unknown port with it niot
working.  Also smart not start a long leg to a place where the engine could
be vital to a safe landfall.  Sure, you should be able to manage without an
engine but why throw an ace out of your deck if you don't need to?

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Capt. JG - 04 Sep 2008 22:48 GMT
>I see Zac had to turn back from his departure from Port Moresby because the
>engine failed to start.  Smart move.  Better to get it fixed by the people
>who should have just fixed it than sail into an unknown port with it niot
>working.  Also smart not start a long leg to a place where the engine could
>be vital to a safe landfall.  Sure, you should be able to manage without an
>engine but why throw an ace out of your deck if you don't need to?

Do you have his blog URL? I seem to have misplaced it. Smart move,
definitely. It's better to wish you were sailing than wish you weren't.

Looks like he's made good progress with the Pacific puddle jump.

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Roger Long - 05 Sep 2008 13:57 GMT
> Do you have his blog URL? I seem to have misplaced it. Smart move,
> definitely. It's better to wish you were sailing than wish you weren't.

http://www.zacsunderland.com/blog/

Looks like his engine problem is in the fuel line.  The engine was switched
from gas to diesel but they didn't replace the fuel line.  Really bad advice
on a $6000 boat.   I had an original factory (1980)  fuel line which was
clearly restricted on my boat due to the max RPM increase when I replaced
it.  Looked fine but who knows what was going on inside.

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Roger Long
Capt. JG - 05 Sep 2008 18:15 GMT
>> Do you have his blog URL? I seem to have misplaced it. Smart move,
>> definitely. It's better to wish you were sailing than wish you weren't.
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> --
> Roger Long

Ah.. thanks. I found it right after I posted.

Kid has guts to undertake such a voyage, especially alone. There aren't many
who don't do even close to this.

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Capt. JG - 05 Sep 2008 21:20 GMT
>>> Do you have his blog URL? I seem to have misplaced it. Smart move,
>>> definitely. It's better to wish you were sailing than wish you weren't.
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> Kid has guts to undertake such a voyage, especially alone. There aren't
> many who don't do even close to this.

Come on Dave... I need help with these typos! LOL

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Dave - 06 Sep 2008 19:12 GMT
>> Kid has guts to undertake such a voyage, especially alone. There aren't
>> many who don't do even close to this.
>
>Come on Dave... I need help with these typos!

Those are wordos, Jon.
Capt. JG - 06 Sep 2008 19:17 GMT
>>> Kid has guts to undertake such a voyage, especially alone. There aren't
>>> many who don't do even close to this.
>>
>>Come on Dave... I need help with these typos!
>
> Those are wordos, Jon.

Har.

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salty@dog.com - 06 Sep 2008 20:00 GMT
>>> Kid has guts to undertake such a voyage, especially alone. There aren't
>>> many who don't do even close to this.
>>
>>Come on Dave... I need help with these typos!
>
>Those are wordos, Jon.

You are a weirdo, Dave.
Dave - 04 Sep 2008 22:52 GMT
>Sure, you should be able to manage without an
>engine but why throw an ace out of your deck if you don't need to?

Only reason I can think of would be a testosterone deficit such as Neal's,
requiring you to demonstrate you're a "real sailor."
Wilbur Hubbard - 04 Sep 2008 23:52 GMT
>>Sure, you should be able to manage without an
>>engine but why throw an ace out of your deck if you don't need to?
>
> Only reason I can think of would be a testosterone deficit such as Neal's,
> requiring you to demonstrate you're a "real sailor."

It was a stupid, weak-willed, incomprehensible move, turning back because
the engine quit.

Oh, poor baby claims to be sailing around the world and just can't even get
out of port without an engine. Worse yet, he knows NOTHING about engines or
anything else. He spends a lot of time on the Internet troubleshooting
various simple things with his cadre of support people. Seems he has no
technical know-how. Clueless when it comes to boat systems.

And, worse than that even is he doesn't even know how to sail. He claims he
was motoring into a headwind leaving port. Then his engine that had just
been repaired quits again. So he turns around and beats into the wind for an
hour or two headed back to port  until a tow arrives. Huh! The wind was
apparently going both directions at the same time. You idiots reading his
blog don't even notice the discrepancy. What else does little snot-nose make
up?

Zac is a loser. A spoiled brat trying and failing to do something better
left to men.

Wilbur Hubbard
Dave - 05 Sep 2008 00:40 GMT
>do something better
>left to men.

Q.E.D.
Capt. JG - 05 Sep 2008 01:41 GMT
>>do something better
>>left to men.
>
> Q.E.D.

Neal doesn't know much about math and he isn't an erat. LOL

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Bob - 05 Sep 2008 16:47 GMT
On Sep 4, 2:52 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invalid>
wrote:

> Zac is a loser.

> Wilbur Hubbard

Ya know WIlbur I have to agree with you. I just read one of the Blog
entries and I was left with a couple thought....

First the dad or who ever writes JUST LIKE SKIP ! ! ! !

For example the following words are from his blog. Notice all the
"poor me, I mus over come all these crisis" words:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rather frustrating
even more frustrating for Zac
deal with the current engine problem
good dose of prayer
supplication is in order.
engine failure
without too much of an ordeal
premature grey hairs
dealing with the latest saga.
problems that Zac
extenuating circumstances
resulted in engine failur
deemed inoperable for preservation
engine from damage).

Next, he even gives quit little names to objects calling operator
failures as "fairies."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The fairies were dealt with and promise that the problem will not happen again.
The fuel situation is different problem and the solution: goblins
entered the tank some years ago and have gone undetected until
recently.
They have been detected, swift action must be taken before they take
over the vessel.

And now he is even defining RACOR for us idiots just like SKIP ! !

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was declared clean by those involved.
little thought had been given
Racor 500s are not goblins or fairies, they are fuel filters.
Why so much frustration?

Now here comes the best.... BLAME OTHER PEOPLE for their inability,
lack of skill,  and paucit knowledge.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We have spent a lot of time on the phone trying to engage help from local companies. It has a lot to do with people saying they will do something and then doing another.

The following explanation sheds some light: "Mr. Sunderland, have you
ever been to Papau New Guinea?" "No, actually, I have not." "Mr.
Sunderland, do you know what a third world country is?" "Yes, I do."
"Well, Papua New Guinea is like a fifth world country." Doesn't really
matter how frustrated you are, the situation is what it is.

Zac is eager to get out on the ocean again. Please pray that God's
will would be done and that Zac would be able to continue on and have
a successful passage through the Torres Strait and on to Darwin.
Cheers,
Laurence

I wonder if these people are related to SKIP? I shall not waist
anymore time reading this adolecent premature ejaculation.

Bob
Wilbur Hubbard - 05 Sep 2008 17:40 GMT
On Sep 4, 2:52 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" <wilburhubb...@thefarm.invalid>
wrote:

> Zac is a loser.

> Wilbur Hubbard

Ya know WIlbur I have to agree with you. I just read one of the Blog
entries and I was left with a couple thought....

First the dad or who ever writes JUST LIKE SKIP ! ! ! !

For example the following words are from his blog. Notice all the
"poor me, I mus over come all these crisis" words:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>rather frustrating
even more frustrating for Zac
deal with the current engine problem
good dose of prayer
supplication is in order.
engine failure
without too much of an ordeal
premature grey hairs
dealing with the latest saga.
problems that Zac
extenuating circumstances
resulted in engine failur
deemed inoperable for preservation
engine from damage).

Next, he even gives quit little names to objects calling operator
failures as "fairies."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The fairies were dealt with and promise that the problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>will not happen again.
The fuel situation is different problem and the solution: goblins
entered the tank some years ago and have gone undetected until
recently.
They have been detected, swift action must be taken before they take
over the vessel.

And now he is even defining RACOR for us idiots just like SKIP ! !

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was declared clean by those involved.
little thought had been given
Racor 500s are not goblins or fairies, they are fuel filters.
Why so much frustration?

Now here comes the best.... BLAME OTHER PEOPLE for their inability,
lack of skill,  and paucit knowledge.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We have spent a lot of time on the phone trying to engage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help from local companies. It has a lot to do with people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saying they will do something and then doing another.

The following explanation sheds some light: "Mr. Sunderland, have you
ever been to Papau New Guinea?" "No, actually, I have not." "Mr.
Sunderland, do you know what a third world country is?" "Yes, I do."
"Well, Papua New Guinea is like a fifth world country." Doesn't really
matter how frustrated you are, the situation is what it is.

Zac is eager to get out on the ocean again. Please pray that God's
will would be done and that Zac would be able to continue on and have
a successful passage through the Torres Strait and on to Darwin.
Cheers,
Laurence

I wonder if these people are related to SKIP? I shall not waist
anymore time reading this adolecent premature ejaculation.

Bob

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Well said, sir!

Finally, another voice of reason. It's so refreshing not to have to read
apologist weaseling day after day without end.

Wilbur Hubbard
7seassinbad@gmail.com - 05 Sep 2008 21:31 GMT
 .. Sure, you should be able to manage without an
> engine but why throw an ace out of your deck if you don't need to?
>
> --
> Roger Long

Indeed, only an angry bitter person who never sails would dis-agree
with you.
It's easy to brag stuck to a barko lounger how you would do things
differently, and easier still to claim you are more manly.

I'm sure some loser will claim he could do better, but in reality
(the world he never deals in) he will do nothing but thump his sunken
chest in a pathetic attempt to garner attention.

Fred
Capt. JG - 05 Sep 2008 23:34 GMT
I think you're missing an important point... he (Neal, I'm assuming) is
angry because he *doesn't* sail. Unless you're talking racing, and then only
in the moment, I can't think of any angry sailors/cruisers. They're
typically relatively happy, and relatively patient people.

On Sep 4, 4:13 pm, "Roger Long" <stri...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
 .. Sure, you should be able to manage without an
> engine but why throw an ace out of your deck if you don't need to?
>
> --
> Roger Long

Indeed, only an angry bitter person who never sails would dis-agree
with you.
It's easy to brag stuck to a barko lounger how you would do things
differently, and easier still to claim you are more manly.

I'm sure some loser will claim he could do better, but in reality
(the world he never deals in) he will do nothing but thump his sunken
chest in a pathetic attempt to garner attention.

Fred

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