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Don Bouchard - 10 Jan 2007 06:59 GMT
Does anybody know if there is a significant difference between Maptech Chart
Navigator Pro and Coastal Explore by Rosepoint--other than the price
differential ($100)? Rosepoint seems to have written both programs, and I am
loathe to waste $100.
Mark - 10 Jan 2007 18:48 GMT
Don, the primary difference is Chart Navigator Pro supports bathy
charts.

> Does anybody know if there is a significant difference between Maptech Chart
> Navigator Pro and Coastal Explore by Rosepoint--other than the price
> differential ($100)? Rosepoint seems to have written both programs, and I am
> loathe to waste $100.
Gordon - 10 Jan 2007 22:16 GMT
> Don, the primary difference is Chart Navigator Pro supports bathy
> charts.
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>> differential ($100)? Rosepoint seems to have written both programs, and I am
>> loathe to waste $100.

  Rosepoint did write both!
 gordon
Bill Kearney - 10 Jan 2007 23:01 GMT
The maptech version (it's the same software) comes with ALL OF THEIR US
MAPS.  The Rosepoint one doesn't.  $100 for the entire US waterway data is a
pretty good deal, even if you only end up using one or two of the discs.
You could, I suppose, using the freebie NOAA charts but they don't have the
same level of detail as found on maptech's.  Or the depth bathy charts, I
don't know that Coastal Explorer can use them.

Coastal Explorer is an amazingly friendly program.  Well worth the price in
either flavor.

-Bill Kearney

> Does anybody know if there is a significant difference between Maptech Chart
> Navigator Pro and Coastal Explore by Rosepoint--other than the price
> differential ($100)? Rosepoint seems to have written both programs, and I am
> loathe to waste $100.
Gordon - 10 Jan 2007 23:11 GMT
> The maptech version (it's the same software) comes with ALL OF THEIR US
> MAPS.  The Rosepoint one doesn't.  $100 for the entire US waterway data is a
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> am
>> loathe to waste $100.

  My Rosepoint came with all the charts on a separate cd.
 Gordon
Bill Kearney - 11 Jan 2007 00:01 GMT
>    My Rosepoint came with all the charts on a separate cd.

Maptech CNP came with a dozen DVDs.  High detail vector and raster charts,
aerial pictures, bathy data and more.  So you really are getting QUITE a lot
of data for that extra $100.

Shop around, I found mine online for, iirc, $350.
Mark - 11 Jan 2007 02:14 GMT
All former softchart charts (Maptech Charkit) including harbor photos
will work in CE as well.

> >    My Rosepoint came with all the charts on a separate cd.
>
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>
> Shop around, I found mine online for, iirc, $350.
Jack Erbes - 12 Jan 2007 12:56 GMT
>>   My Rosepoint came with all the charts on a separate cd.
>
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>
> Shop around, I found mine online for, iirc, $350.

If that is the only difference (other than the branding) it may be that
you are paying the extra $100 for the production of the CDs and the
charts on the CDs can be downloaded for free.  But there may be some
additional "bells and whistles" over what can be downloaded.

I don't know exactly how the arrangement worked or works but MapTech is
NOAA's or agent or something like that for the raster charts freely
available for download as NOAA's Raster Navigational Charts (NOAA RNCs™):

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/Index.htm

The RNC were not available for free public download until a few years
ago (2001 or so?).  Prior to that, to get those charts you had to buy
them from MapTech as their BSB family products.  Now it appears that
MapTech does the maintenance or production of the RNC charts for NOAA.

I was glad to see the RNCs become publicly available as they are, like
the USGS products like topo mapping, produced with our tax dollars and
should be available to the public for that reason alone.  Also, I
consider it to be much to the best interests of the public to have our
national mapping widely and freely available to all individuals and
agencies.

NOAA also has the Electronic Navigational Charts (NOAA ENC®) vector
charts available for free download:

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm

The ENC charts cover major ports now and are slowly increasing in
number.  Eventually all the NOAA charts will be converted to vector
charts and people will have free access to them all.

Rose Point's Coastal Explorer is an amazingly good piece of software.  I
think it is the best product available for us with PCs on boats.  There
are some less expensive or even free (the very good SeaClear II for
example) softwares available but last time I looked at it you had to buy
a commercial product to find one that will use both the RNC and ENC
charts.

SeaClear II with the RNC charts is a good low cost alternative for
electronic navigation in U.S. coastal and inland waters.

Jack

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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
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Bill Kearney - 12 Jan 2007 23:49 GMT
> If that is the only difference (other than the branding) it may be that
> you are paying the extra $100 for the production of the CDs and the
> charts on the CDs can be downloaded for free.  But there may be some
> additional "bells and whistles" over what can be downloaded.

Some?  How about LOTS of extras.  The NOAA charts (raster and vector) are
good but they're lacking in quite a bit of added data.  Being able to pull
up a picture of the harbor, on approach and aerial, has helped us a couple
of times when coming into ports.  Then there's the street address, telephone
and other detail for various on-shore businesses.  I've used that to call a
marina (after nobody came back on VHF) and ask "is it the pier with the
white building or the red one" and the kid that picked up the phone knew
which.  Sure, it's an added 'frill' but one that's proved genuinely useful.

> Rose Point's Coastal Explorer is an amazingly good piece of software.  I
> think it is the best product available for us with PCs on boats.

I concur.

> SeaClear II with the RNC charts is a good low cost alternative for
> electronic navigation in U.S. coastal and inland waters.

Eh, compared to Coastal Explorer/CNP, it's crap.  Way too tedious to use.

-Bill Kearney
 
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