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Boat Forum / Paddle Boats / November 2009Timmy's ISP's TOS
Timmy "Sponson Boy" posts from his isp.com account, which has the following on their website as their Terms Of Service, or TOS: RESTRICTIONS OF USE: User understands that the following restrictions are applied to the service: User may not: Send SPAM, or bulk email when dialed into the network. Post offensive, threatening or SPAM when using the newsgroups. Use their personal FTP site for business sites. Post or transmit viruses or any harmful component to others. Transmit anything that is protected by copyright without permission. Attempt to violate the security of any network. Engage in illegal activity. Share their account information with any other person. Do we think we could convince isp.com that one timingram@isp.com is flagrantly violating their TOS? I think the argument could be made! John Kuthe... John: I filed a complaint with ISP.com attaching his latest cut/paste copy from 10/22/09. I am especially offended that he brought Scott Bristow's name into it, and it is with hesitation I even mention it. I never met Scott but I had several friends that paddled with him and they had immense respect. "We should remember that they had friends who cared for and appreciated them. And they enhanced their friend's lives and are missed forever. Appreciating the time we had with them is not the lesson. Appreciating the time we have left is the lesson. These guys lived free and strong. Hey, have no regrets. They all tought us a great lesson in their passing, but it will take years to unravel. Their lives - and their deaths - were gifts to us. We shouldn't sully the gifts with selfish laments." - Jim Snyder, commenting on the loss of Scott Bristow and others. I am sure that Tim will show his true self and continue to prove what an a.s he is. Rich You guys are still pissing into the wind. Tim Ingram is mentally ill. Attempting to reason with him or expecting him to behave rationally is an indication that you guys are maybe not so smart or so sane as you should be. Rich did the right thing: point out his abuses to his ISP, because it is completely within our cultural and moral norms to restrict the activities of the insane so that they do not degreade the lives of the sane. It's a dam' shame that a sick person has been able to destroy an active and useful newsgroup, but Usenet will probably die its slow death (giving way to privately run -- and moderated -- message boards), before the WWW develops a means of sequestering the mentally ill Arguing with Tim and calling him names is just silly. His posts represent, probably, 50% of the messages on r.b.p, but his messages combined with the responses they elicit probably represent more like 95% of the messages. By engaging him you only make the problem worse and render r.b.p even less usable. I mean, really, think about it: is there even a glimmer of sanity evident in Ingram's crusade? -Richard, His Kanubic Travesty > John: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Rich > You guys are still pissing into the wind. Tim Ingram is mentally > ill. Attempting to reason with him or expecting him to behave > rationally is an indication that you guys are maybe not so smart or so > sane as you should be. [snip] Richard, I hold no delusions that Timmy can be reasoned with on any level. Yes I suspect mental illness, but it's really hard to make such a diagnosis over one's posts to the Internet. But one's posts to the Internet do give some gleaning into one's rationality, and Tilly fails miserably on this measure. Have you noticed how Timmy has yet to respond to any posts in this discussion thread? Methinks talk of getting his ISP to pull his account has him a little nervous! After all, he's been kicked off ISPs before for his behavior! John Kuthe... Everyone! Please read the following response from ISP.com about Tim's postings: "Thank you for including such detail, we have disabled his account causing him to call in and will deal with him when he does call in. Daryl F Sysops (my email to ISP.com:) Dear Sirs: I am complaining that a customer of yours, Tim Ingram, timingram@isp.com, is posting spam and clogging up usenet groups with advertising for his business, www.sponsonguy.com. He cuts and pastes whole pages from his website and posts them 3, 4, 5, 6 sometimes even more times on a single entry on usenet groups. He is currently clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including describes: ACTUAL POSTING FROM 10/22/09: (edited here but entire pages and pages were sent to ISP.com as examples)" So, in the meantime let's chat it up while we have the board free. Great to hear from you, Mothra. A lot of us are still around, still paddling and reflecting on this journey called life. "So many believe that it is love that grows. but it is the knowing that grows and love simply expands to contain it. Love is just the skin of knowing". --William P. Young jaybird (alias Rich) > Everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Daryl F > Sysops Way to go Rich!! Thanks!! Now we just have to wait and see how long it takes Timmy to get another ISP. But until then, RBP is a SPONSON FREE ZONE! YAY!! :-) John Kuthe... >You guys are still pissing into the wind. Tim Ingram is mentally >ill. Attempting to reason with him or expecting him to behave >rationally is an indication that you guys are maybe not so smart or so >sane as you should be. I think we want the .50 cent sp*ns**n's... if he can't deliver life saving sp*ns**n's at that price we want the FTC after him... Going from one ISP to another is one thing, paying federal fines is another...  SignatureJohn Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) > John: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Rich Good point Rich. Yeah, I saw Timmy's disparaging of Scott in a post recently. I never met Scott either, but in that he paddled a 007, he and I are kinda brethren in that. I still paddle an old 007. Maybe I'll email isp.com and lodge a complaint against Timmy myself. Getting him kicked off his ISP would at least give RBP some temporary respite from Timmy's sick puppy puke! John Kuthe... > John: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I never met Scott but I had several friends that paddled with him and > they had immense respect. Well done, Rich! I already did the same thing a while ago, but I'm glad that they responded now. 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