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Boat Forum / Paddle Boats / November 2009Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!
Everyone! Please read the following response from ISP.com about Tim's postings: "Thank you for including such detail, we have disabled his account causing him to call in and will deal with him when he does call in. Daryl F Sysops (my email to ISP.com:) Dear Sirs: I am complaining that a customer of yours, Tim Ingram, timing...@isp.com, is posting spam and clogging up usenet groups with advertising for his business, www.sponsonguy.com. He cuts and pastes whole pages from his website and posts them 3, 4, 5, 6 sometimes even more times on a single entry on usenet groups. He is currently clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including describes: ACTUAL POSTING FROM 10/22/09: (edited here but entire pages and pages were sent to ISP.com as examples)" So, in the meantime let's chat it up while we have the board free. Great to hear from you, Mothra. A lot of us are still around, still paddling and reflecting on this journey called life. "So many believe that it is love that grows. but it is the knowing that grows and love simply expands to contain it. Love is just the skin of knowing". --William P. Young jaybird (alias Rich) > Everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > jaybird (alias Rich) I posted a note over on Boatertalk's "Liquid Lounge" forum about Timmy's ISP demise. Hoping this might generate a little more participation over here on RBP (almost wrote RBC, as I'm studying hematology right now! :-) ) John Kuthe.. In a previous article, Rich <rich_dog_one@yahoo.com> said: >clogging up pages and pages of text on the usenet group >recreation.boats.paddle as the following posting I am including You know, if you're going to complain about somebody flooding a newsgroup, it would probably be a good idea to get the name of the newsgroup right. This is rec.boats.paddle. There is no such heirarchy as "recreation".  SignaturePaul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> http://blog.xcski.com/ "What we obtain too cheap we esteem too lightly; it is dearness only that gives everything its value." - Thomas Paine. > In a previous article, Rich <rich_dog_...@yahoo.com> said: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > This is rec.boats.paddle. �There is no such heirarchy as "recreation". Actualy we are both correct. rec.boats.paddle is an accepted abbreviation but if you sign up for this group the first broad catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it..... :) Rich Rich In a previous article, Rich <rich_dog_one@yahoo.com> said: >> In a previous article, Rich <rich_dog_...@yahoo.com> said: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >catagory is "recreation" not rec. Type them both into a google search >and it takes you to the same place. Gotta love it..... :) I don't care what abortion of a crap-fest the Google interface tells you, this is a Usenet newsgroup called rec.boats.paddle. It's called that on every Usenet server in the world that carries it. If you want an ISP to investigate your claims, you better get the name right or they'll look on their Usenet server, see that there are no groups that start with "recreation", and write you off as an idiot or a crank. I've been a Usenet server administrator since 1987. I think I can claim to know what I'm talking about in this regard. SignaturePaul Tomblin <ptomblin@xcski.com> http://blog.xcski.com/ "Being lectured on fiscal responsibility by George Bush is like being lectured on law and order by Tony Soprano." - John Kerry > > In a previous article, Rich <rich_dog_...@yahoo.com> said: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Rich And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde! Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with boating! :-) John Kuthe... On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich <rich_dog_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, ptomblin+netn...@xcski.com (Paul Tomblin) wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Rich And already we are seeing a return the the RBP chatter of olde! Pointlessly arguments about things that have nothing to do with boating! :-) John Kuthe... ############################################################################# Yeah, but it shows numbers so people actually stop and check (even SponsonBoy's post do that), and then they're here and might stay. And I'd be pretty amazed at any ISP that didn't know that "rec" stood for "recreation", but whatever. It's way too cold and nasty here for much paddling, so gotta amuse ourselves somehow. One disadvantage to plastic boat - in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and tear-downs. Now, not so much... Cricket > On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich <rich_dog_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > in the "olden days" you could spend the winter discussing major repairs and > tear-downs. Now, not so much... Too cold? Why, is the water solid? I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But as long as the water's liquid, and exists... John Kuthe... >> "John Kuthe" <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> > Rich [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >John Kuthe... I'm not a fan of cold and wet when it's coming down from above too. I can stay out of the water, mostly - but down the back of my neck - I don't even ride in that weather if I can help it, and the horse puts out considerable heat (those Aussie coats that hang down over the saddle? Little heat risers, they are... ;>) Plus going by myself *and* that cold is a bad idea - and I'm *damn* sure I don't know anyone else who will go. Used to be a bunch who went out every Jan 1, down the Kalamazoo river (for a short stretch) - and then retired to Su Casa, a local very tasty Mexican restaurant which (very relevant) serves beer. Then no one could say they'd been out earlier that year...but I don't remember them ever saying they went right back out the next weekend... ;>D The Kalamazoo is the only river you can count on being liquid at that time of year, so I don't feel too bad abandoning the rest 'til something resembling spring. Cricket > > "John Kuthe" <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > - Show quoted text - John, I have paddled the St. Francis River in the past, as well as the Little SF, Big Creek, the Eleven Point and the Current when I was in the area. All lovely rivers, and I look forward to doing them again someday. As a Michigan-based paddler, we never put the canoes away for the winter. There are spots that stay ope in the cities, and a few natural-flow rivers that are spring-fed. I remember a couple winters ago a bunch of us with boats on top pulled into a restaurant in February and wiped out the parking lot for the snow machines that came later. Boy, did we get some strange looks! Now, how about starting a BOATING controversy that has nothing to do with sp******ns or ISPs. How about reviving the straps vs. ropes arguement and we'll have a showdown between the trucker's hitchers and the cam bucklers? Rich > > > "John Kuthe" <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > Rich Straps vs. Ropes!! I'm a dyed in the wool ROPER!!! Cam buckles are for WIMPS! I put a double twist in my trucker's hitches just to make them easier to untie! And besides, if straps are so cool, how come no one makes macrame out of straps? :-) John Kuthe... >> > "John Kuthe" <johnku...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > >Rich There's no point in discussing that, everyone knows that straps are far better. I prefer stropes, which are flat webbings that you still tie knots into. The boats bounce all over hell, but nobody can accuse me of taking sides...... Rich >I prefer stropes, which are flat webbings that you still tie knots > into. The boats bounce all over hell, but nobody can accuse me of > taking sides...... > > Rich My truck was an appliance deliver truck in it's (long ago) youth. So it's got attachment points everywhere, and a rack behind the cab. I toss my boats in the back, grab the bungees with the 'biners and hook 'em up and go... I laugh at your ropes and straps! Ha ha!! (Always wished I could make that sound like the Monty Python version...) > >I prefer stropes, which are flat webbings that you still tie knots > > into. The boats bounce all over hell, but nobody can accuse me of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > (Always wished I could make that sound like the Monty Python version...) Bungees??!! I hope you have some super-reinforced mondo-bulletproof bungees!! I can't begin to count the number of bungees I've found along roadways. Those things are notoriously unreliable. How many boats have you bounced off the pavement? I can honestly say I've never lost a boat tied with my ropes! John Kuthe... >Bungees??!! I hope you have some super-reinforced mondo-bulletproof >bungees!! I can't begin to count the number of bungees I've found [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >John Kuthe... Actually, these are pretty hefty. And they've got good, solid 'biners built in. But mostly, the fact that the boats are down in the bed and restrained that way makes me happier than I would be otherwise. For on top, out in the wind, they get straps or ropes (ahah - not gonna pin me down there...) Never lost a boat in thirty some years (sigh) of hauling them, and I've used every fastening method known to man. Including shoving three of them *inside* the motor home...something to do with my somewhat OCD tying methods, I think... One of the beauties of little boats. ;>) Cricket >>>> On Oct 25, 6:31 am, Rich <rich_dog_...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On Oct 24, 8:55 pm, ptomblin+netn...@xcski.com (Paul Tomblin) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > There's no point in discussing that, everyone knows that straps are > far better. Hee! Hee! Have to agree with Galen on that! :-) SignatureWilko van den Bergh wilko<a t)dse(d o t>nl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://kayaker.nl/ <snip> >Too cold? Why, is the water solid? >I live in Missouri, and my home river is the Saint Francis. If the >water's liquid, people paddle! I've paddled in below 0 Celsius temps >and had ice forming on my paddle, and when it was raining ice too. But >as long as the water's liquid, and exists... You have a home river? I'm jealous... I suppose I can call the Chicago or the DesPlaines my home river although I'm probably on the DesPlaines more... The dead river is one I've wanted to paddle but anytime I ask @IBSP they say no boats allowed, it's a nature preserve area... SignatureJohn Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You have a home river? I'm jealous... Well, The Saint as we call it is 100 miles from STL, but it's the most reliable WW river closest to STL. And it's my favorite place on the planet too! It's not fancy, but I call it home. John Kuthe... > Everyone! > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Daryl F > Sysops And all will be quiet... up to the next episode of spamsonman, which is probably in a year or two, if his previous visits are taken into consideration. Oh well... Much changes and much stays the same. :-) SignatureWilko van den Bergh wilko<a t)dse(d o t>nl Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe ---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.--- http://kayaker.nl/ |
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