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So tired of the lock the prop thread.

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Wilbur Hubbard - 02 Jul 2008 21:58 GMT
Uh, folks, this is uk.rec.sailing isn't it?

What's with the never-ending thread about locking the prop. What's a prop
have to do with sailing? Seems to me a prop is a motor boat subject. Talking
endlessly about locking the prop is not only boring but it is rude to
subject sailors to motor head topics like this.

Next time at least put [OT] in the subject line so those of us with filters
for those magic letters won't have to keep deleting off topic crap every
time we log on.

This group of late suffered attacks from other folks who were sick and tired
of a known netcop who practically lives here and evoked their ire. (Martin)

Unfortunately, Martin isn't the only net cop or net nanny on the premises.
These are the people who yell 'foul' and 'troll' at the least provocation
yet they don't seem to object to motor topics discussed endlessly in this
sailing newsgroup. Hypocrites!

It's a sad commentary on sailing when the majority of posts discuss
everything but sailing. Could this be an indication of the sad state of
sailing in the UK?

Wilbur Hubbard
Andy Champ - 02 Jul 2008 22:09 GMT
> Uh, folks, this is uk.rec.sailing isn't it?
>
> What's with the never-ending thread about locking the prop. What's a prop
> have to do with sailing? Seems to me a prop is a motor boat subject. Talking
> endlessly about locking the prop is not only boring but it is rude to
> subject sailors to motor head topics like this.

Locking the prop while sailing is not a motorboat topic.  It's about
auxiliary power for a sailing vessel, and how to minimise its impact
when not in use.

Andy
Wilbur Hubbard - 02 Jul 2008 22:22 GMT
>> Uh, folks, this is uk.rec.sailing isn't it?
>>
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> auxiliary power for a sailing vessel, and how to minimise its impact when
> not in use.

Sorry, but sailing has NOTHING to do with motoring. A real sailboat has no
motor.

This group is not named uk.rec.motorsailing. And, even if one were to agree
with you, why the endless discussion? The simple known facts are to stop the
shaft and prop from turning and do it so the prop is faired by the deadwood
in the cutout in a full keeled boat or if you have a fin keel then it
doesn't matter if you fold, feather or whatever, you have unacceptable drag.
The ONLY acceptable alternative is an outboard motor on the transom that can
be tilted up completely free of the water.

But, since this is a sailing newsgroup discussing the above is really off
topic because sailing is done with sails and NO motor. Get it? I realize
that's a difficult concept to grasp but give it a try, please.

Wilbur Hubbard
Jan - 03 Jul 2008 17:35 GMT
>>> Uh, folks, this is uk.rec.sailing isn't it?
>>>
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>
> Sorry, but sailing has NOTHING to do with motoring.

Sailing without running the motor is not motoring.

>A real sailboat has no  motor.

Refering to your dinghy?
Wanderer - 04 Jul 2008 13:23 GMT
> > Uh, folks, this is uk.rec.sailing isn't it?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> auxiliary power for a sailing vessel, and how to minimise its impact
> when not in use.

Absolutely agree and it's as easy to block the thread by using the
word "prop" as it is by using (OT) if you can't accept that some
sailing boats have props as well?
R.C. Payne - 03 Jul 2008 12:06 GMT
> Uh, folks, this is uk.rec.sailing isn't it?
>
> What's with the never-ending thread about locking the prop. What's a prop
> have to do with sailing? Seems to me a prop is a motor boat subject. Talking
> endlessly about locking the prop is not only boring but it is rude to
> subject sailors to motor head topics like this.

Lots of boats designed with the primary purpose of sailing have engines
and propellers in them.  Sure, if the discussion were about boat
handling under power, or propeller design, or gear box design, I might
agree with your objection, but as the thread is specifically about how
best to *sail* a boat with this common feature, it seems entirely on
topic to me.

> Next time at least put [OT] in the subject line so those of us with filters
> for those magic letters won't have to keep deleting off topic crap every
> time we log on.

Well I for one have found the topic useful and helpful.  I have always
sailed with people who lock the prop, and have occasionally wondered
whether it really is the best thing to do, it's good to get some
informed opinion.

Perhaps you should have added [OT] to the subject line of a thread about
whining about what other people discuss on uk.rec.sailing, as whining
has nothing to do with sailing.

> This group of late suffered attacks from other folks who were sick and tired
> of a known netcop who practically lives here and evoked their ire. (Martin)
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> everything but sailing. Could this be an indication of the sad state of
> sailing in the UK?

I suspect it is more an indication that, now that summer is here,
everyone who is interested in sailing has gone sailing and doesn't have
time to post to usenet about it.  Perhaps when autumn arrives, people
will get back to posting to usenet.

Robin
 
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