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Re: Bargain basement radar?
| Bruce in Alaska | 02 Sep 2007 21:00 |
> >>> You don't need a Marine Radar, which you can't use on Land anyway. You > >> --Clueless me: why can't I use a marine radar on land? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > sideband radios used at sea. They used to require licenses (I had one), > but I don't know if they still do. Actually, there ARE ligitimate uses for, and required Licensing available, for Marine Handheld Radios on Land, It is called a Marine Utility Coast Station if used on Land, and a Marine Utility Ship Station is used on water. To obtain one of these Marine Utility Station Licenses, one must make an additional "Showing", that meets the Requirments of 47CFR Part 80.501, AND that these communications can not be accomplished via a Fixed Radio.
Under the Rules in place TODAY, Ship Station Licenses for US Flagged Vessels that are "Non-Commercial" AND do NOT make International Voyages, and use only VHF, RADAR, and EPIRB, ARE covered by a Blanket FCC License Granted to all such Vessels, and are NOT required to have Individual Station Licenses onboard. The same type of Blanket Station License is available for US Registered Aircraft, that meet similar requirments.
If, however, you chose to fit a MF/HF Marine Radio, UHF OnBoard Communications Radios, or Marine Mobile Satellite Radio Systems, even if non-Commercial in nature, you must then apply for, and hold a Ship Station License onboard, that lists the appropriate transmitter frequency bands, that you are Licensed to operate.
All commercial Vessels ARE required to have an Indivdual or Plurality Ship Station License aboard.
Bruce in alaska
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| Larry | 02 Sep 2007 15:35 |
>>> You don't need a Marine Radar, which you can't use on Land anyway. You >> --Clueless me: why can't I use a marine radar on land? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Casady No flame intended, but that simply cannot be so. If possessing a marine band handheld on land were illegal, it would be impossible to sell them, or assuming that you own one, it would be impossible to remove it from a marine environment as most folks do with their boats in the winter. You certainly cannot transmit on marine frequencies on land, but I doubt that you cannot own one and remove it from your boat. Furthermore, FM radios don't even come with an application for an FCC license. I don't think licenses are required for FM. I don't know about the single sideband radios used at sea. They used to require licenses (I had one), but I don't know if they still do.
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| Richard Casady | 01 Sep 2007 21:25 |
>>You don't need a Marine Radar, which you can't use on Land anyway. You > --Clueless me: why can't I use a marine radar on land? Against FCC regs. A guy stepped off the boat onto the dock with a marine band handheld. $8000 fine. The license was for the boat, not the individual radios separately. Hence unlicensed anywhere else.
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| steamer | 01 Sep 2007 17:57 |
>You don't need a Marine Radar, which you can't use on Land anyway. You --Clueless me: why can't I use a marine radar on land?
>need something like a Speed Sensor, or a GunnPlexer. Maybe gmheng.com >would have somethng that would fit your needs. My Little Brother builds >some very nice gear using that technology.... --Will check it out; thanks.
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| Bruce in Alaska | 31 Aug 2007 21:00 |
> --Went to West Marine; the cheapest unit they sell was over $2k. > My application is a little weird but I don't need great range; a few hundred > feet would be good enough. > --Does anyone know of a real bargain basement source for radar? > I'm willing to build from a kit, but I haven't found anything. > Suggestions? You don't need a Marine Radar, which you can't use on Land anyway. You need something like a Speed Sensor, or a GunnPlexer. Maybe gmheng.com would have somethng that would fit your needs. My Little Brother builds some very nice gear using that technology....
Bruce in alaska
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| steamer | 31 Aug 2007 16:04 |
--Went to West Marine; the cheapest unit they sell was over $2k. My application is a little weird but I don't need great range; a few hundred feet would be good enough. --Does anyone know of a real bargain basement source for radar? I'm willing to build from a kit, but I haven't found anything. Suggestions?
 Signature "Steamboat Ed" Haas : A steaming pile of Hacking the Trailing Edge! : obscure information... www.nmpproducts.com ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---
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